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    Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    I am sure apologists for government spying on the American people will dismiss this and claim the people who revealed this to a traitor.

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    WASHINGTON—The Justice Department is scooping up data from thousands of mobile phones through devices deployed on airplanes that mimic cellphone towers, a high-tech hunt for criminal suspects that is snagging a large number of innocent Americans, according to people familiar with the operations.

    The U.S. Marshals Service program, which became fully functional around 2007, operates Cessna aircraft from at least five metropolitan-area airports, with a flying range covering most of the U.S. population, according to people familiar with the program.

    Planes are equipped with devices—some known as “dirtboxes” to law-enforcement officials because of the initials of the Boeing Co. unit that produces them—which mimic cell towers of large telecommunications firms and trick cellphones into reporting their unique registration information.
    The technology in the two-foot-square device enables investigators to scoop data from tens of thousands of cellphones in a single flight, collecting their identifying information and general location, these people said.

    People with knowledge of the program wouldn’t discuss the frequency or duration of such flights, but said they take place on a regular basis.

    A Justice Department official would neither confirm nor deny the existence of such a program. The official said discussion of such matters would allow criminal suspects or foreign powers to determine U.S. surveillance capabilities. Justice Department agencies comply with federal law, including by seeking court approval, the official said.

    The program is the latest example of the extent to which the U.S. is training its surveillance lens inside the U.S. It is similar in approach to the National Security Agency’s program to collect millions of Americans phone records, in that it scoops up large volumes of data in order to find a single person or a handful of people. The U.S. government justified the phone-records collection by arguing it is a minimally invasive way of searching for terrorists.

    Christopher Soghoian, chief technologist at the American Civil Liberties Union, called it “a dragnet surveillance program. It’s inexcusable and it’s likely—to the extent judges are authorizing it—[that] they have no idea of the scale of it.”

    Cellphones are programmed to connect automatically to the strongest cell tower signal. The device being used by the U.S. Marshals Service identifies itself as having the closest, strongest signal, even though it doesn’t, and forces all the phones that can detect its signal to send in their unique registration information.
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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    And you are surprised why? this is the country that built Echelon after all..
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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    Hey, if you have nothing to hide.....
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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    I've been reduced to semaphore now. It's too windy for smoke signals today.

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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am sure apologists for government spying on the American people will dismiss this and claim the people who revealed this to a traitor.

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    WASHINGTON—The Justice Department is scooping up data from thousands of mobile phones through devices deployed on airplanes that mimic cellphone towers, a high-tech hunt for criminal suspects that is snagging a large number of innocent Americans, according to people familiar with the operations.

    The U.S. Marshals Service program, which became fully functional around 2007, operates Cessna aircraft from at least five metropolitan-area airports, with a flying range covering most of the U.S. population, according to people familiar with the program.

    Planes are equipped with devices—some known as “dirtboxes” to law-enforcement officials because of the initials of the Boeing Co. unit that produces them—which mimic cell towers of large telecommunications firms and trick cellphones into reporting their unique registration information.
    The technology in the two-foot-square device enables investigators to scoop data from tens of thousands of cellphones in a single flight, collecting their identifying information and general location, these people said.

    People with knowledge of the program wouldn’t discuss the frequency or duration of such flights, but said they take place on a regular basis.

    A Justice Department official would neither confirm nor deny the existence of such a program. The official said discussion of such matters would allow criminal suspects or foreign powers to determine U.S. surveillance capabilities. Justice Department agencies comply with federal law, including by seeking court approval, the official said.

    The program is the latest example of the extent to which the U.S. is training its surveillance lens inside the U.S. It is similar in approach to the National Security Agency’s program to collect millions of Americans phone records, in that it scoops up large volumes of data in order to find a single person or a handful of people. The U.S. government justified the phone-records collection by arguing it is a minimally invasive way of searching for terrorists.

    Christopher Soghoian, chief technologist at the American Civil Liberties Union, called it “a dragnet surveillance program. It’s inexcusable and it’s likely—to the extent judges are authorizing it—[that] they have no idea of the scale of it.”

    Cellphones are programmed to connect automatically to the strongest cell tower signal. The device being used by the U.S. Marshals Service identifies itself as having the closest, strongest signal, even though it doesn’t, and forces all the phones that can detect its signal to send in their unique registration information.

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    "The allegations, reported in the Wall Street Journal late on Thursday, suggest that the US Marshals Service has for seven years flown Cessna aircraft outfitted with “dirtbox” devices that mimic cellular towers, permitting the collection of thousands of unique IDs and location data from users.


    According to the Journal the planes operate from at least five metropolitan airports, permitting a “flying range covering most of the US population”.


    The reportedly indiscriminate collection would permit the marshals and potentially other justice department agencies to avoid having to seek records from the phone companies themselves, especially in criminal investigations where a court order may be required."

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...er-data-report





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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And you are surprised why? this is the country that built Echelon after all..
    Nobody said they were surprised.

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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am sure apologists for government spying on the American people will dismiss this and claim the people who revealed this to a traitor.

    Americans

    WASHINGTON—The Justice Department is scooping up data from thousands of mobile phones through devices deployed on airplanes that mimic cellphone towers, a high-tech hunt for criminal suspects that is snagging a large number of innocent Americans, according to people familiar with the operations.

    The U.S. Marshals Service program, which became fully functional around 2007, operates Cessna aircraft from at least five metropolitan-area airports, with a flying range covering most of the U.S. population, according to people familiar with the program.

    Planes are equipped with devices—some known as “dirtboxes” to law-enforcement officials because of the initials of the Boeing Co. unit that produces them—which mimic cell towers of large telecommunications firms and trick cellphones into reporting their unique registration information.
    The technology in the two-foot-square device enables investigators to scoop data from tens of thousands of cellphones in a single flight, collecting their identifying information and general location, these people said.

    People with knowledge of the program wouldn’t discuss the frequency or duration of such flights, but said they take place on a regular basis.

    A Justice Department official would neither confirm nor deny the existence of such a program. The official said discussion of such matters would allow criminal suspects or foreign powers to determine U.S. surveillance capabilities. Justice Department agencies comply with federal law, including by seeking court approval, the official said.

    The program is the latest example of the extent to which the U.S. is training its surveillance lens inside the U.S. It is similar in approach to the National Security Agency’s program to collect millions of Americans phone records, in that it scoops up large volumes of data in order to find a single person or a handful of people. The U.S. government justified the phone-records collection by arguing it is a minimally invasive way of searching for terrorists.

    Christopher Soghoian, chief technologist at the American Civil Liberties Union, called it “a dragnet surveillance program. It’s inexcusable and it’s likely—to the extent judges are authorizing it—[that] they have no idea of the scale of it.”

    Cellphones are programmed to connect automatically to the strongest cell tower signal. The device being used by the U.S. Marshals Service identifies itself as having the closest, strongest signal, even though it doesn’t, and forces all the phones that can detect its signal to send in their unique registration information.
    The government continues to abuse their power and the public continues to elect the same Democrats and Republicans who permit it. I don't know what anyone else plans to do, but as I get older, I hope to use whatever power I have to hold the government more accountable for its behavior.

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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hey, if you have nothing to hide.....
    Really? Do you think if a person has nothing to hide, he should be ok with the government checking his private phone? How about home search if one has nothing to hide? Or rectal search? There's nothing to hide!

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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
    Really? Do you think if a person has nothing to hide, he should be ok with the government checking his private phone? How about home search if one has nothing to hide? Or rectal search? There's nothing to hide!
    I was being sarcastic, sorry it didn't come across. "If you have nothing to hide" is the usual cliche from the anti-privacy, big govt nutters.
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    Re: Americans’ Cellphones Targeted in Secret U.S. Spy Program

    This is despicable [/daffyvoice]. I now own a $112.00/month phone that I'm scared to turn on. I'd better get a land line.
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