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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Nothing like working with the new house and senate.

    Why not sit down and see which if any of these 10 points we can make a bill through the house and senate and he can sign it. You know...bipartisanship.
    You'd think that would be the normal order of business, work it out, compromise, get on with the people's business.

    Seems that Obama is incapable of performing in this aspect of his elected office. I guess he just don't roll that way.

    But then, how often does a community organizer have to compromise? Especially when he believes he's got the upper hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I'll wait and see. I don't see what the big deal is, supposedly it's just a draft anyway.
    That's a good point. Why pull your weapon out and actually be forced to use it, when the mere threat of it is sufficient?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Maybe you should look at what the republicans want before you speak of bipartisanship.
    Republicans first? For bipartisanship?

    Look at all the Republican bipartisanship from the house. Nuff' said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Because the democrats have been really trying to work with the Republicans and vice versa. Give me a break. Neither party is willing to work with the other.
    Except the illustration above proves you wrong.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Maybe you should look at what the republicans want before you speak of bipartisanship.
    How about if we get a president who is not a tyrant.

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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Obama and the Democrats should be very careful and think this unprecedented executive power grab through to its conclusion. Executive orders can be reversed and/or revised as soon as a new President takes office. This means that in 2016, if a Republican takes the office, he can choose how/whether to enforce the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), Endangered Species Act, Civil Rights Act, and can dissolve and abolish the EPA.

    I think these are the types of threats Republicans should be making in response to these executive overreaches. Threats of impeachment or government shutdown are exactly what Obama is trying to provoke. He has already admitted that it would be unconstitutional for him to make executive orders like this but he’s going to do it for political reasons.

    Let him do it. Make sure the American people understand what the new rules are and then use those new rules, in conjunction with your own new power grabs, to thoroughly gut the left’s agenda and pet projects. What a wonderful new recipe for governance here in America.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Obama and the Democrats should be very careful and think this unprecedented executive power grab through to its conclusion. Executive orders can be reversed and/or revised as soon as a new President takes office. This means that in 2016, if a Republican takes the office, he can choose how/whether to enforce the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), Endangered Species Act, Civil Rights Act, and can dissolve and abolish the EPA.

    I think these are the types of threats Republicans should be making in response to these executive overreaches. Threats of impeachment or government shutdown are exactly what Obama is trying to provoke. He has already admitted that it would be unconstitutional for him to make executive orders like this but he’s going to do it for political reasons.

    Let him do it. Make sure the American people understand what the new rules are and then use those new rules, in conjunction with your own new power grabs, to thoroughly gut the left’s agenda and pet projects. What a wonderful new recipe for governance here in America.
    Is that the Republican platform, then, to overturn the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), the Endangered Species Act, the Civil Rights Act, and dissolve and abolish the EPA?
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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Source: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week | Fox News

    First, is this constitutional and legal to do this without Congressional involvement?

    Second, what percentage of Americans actually want Obama to do this?

    Third, what is the motivating factor behind doing this without any input from Congress?

    And last, how is it that only Fox News was able to get these details? Lack of reporting skills, or an organized distraction from the mainstream media?




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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is that the Republican platform, then, to overturn the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), the Endangered Species Act, the Civil Rights Act, and dissolve and abolish the EPA?
    Donít be silly. If you like your health care plan you can keep it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Don’t be silly. If you like your health care plan you can keep it.
    What if I like my civil rights act, can I keep that too?
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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    What if I like my civil rights act, can I keep that too?
    Don't ask me. Ask the King of the United States. This is the system you prefer right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Don't ask me. Ask the King of the United States. This is the system you prefer right?
    The king mentioned above, the one who wants to overturn the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), the Endangered Species Act, the Civil Rights Act, and dissolve and abolish the EPA, hasn't yet been elected.

    If, that is, that is an accurate reflection of the Republican platform.
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    Re: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The king mentioned above, the one who wants to overturn the Affordable Care Act (Obama Care), the Endangered Species Act, the Civil Rights Act, and dissolve and abolish the EPA, hasn't yet been elected.

    If, that is, that is an accurate reflection of the Republican platform.
    The king has already been elected and is already in office. You are defending the subversion of the US Constitution and our Federal laws based upon the popularity of specific issues. The issues are irrelevant. It could be a massive enforcement of federal marijuana laws or picking and choosing who the IRS will dedicate resources to collect taxes from.

    Youíre losing your country and your freedoms to the political fad of the day and dishonest politicians who hunger for more power over every aspect of your life. I guess youíre ok with this as long as the issue is one you support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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