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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's bull****, you read that out of a comic book?
    Its not. We cannot just go around and kill citizens in sovereign nations. If another nation did that here looking for enemies of their state, we would be outraged, it would never be allowed by the international community.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Its not. We cannot just go around and kill citizens in sovereign nations. If another nation did that here looking for enemies of their state, we would be outraged, it would never be allowed by the international community.
    Our soldiers were under lawful orders, so they weren't murderers.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Our soldiers were under lawful orders, so they weren't murderers.
    Just because they had orders that were lawful under US law does not mean they are right. I will say again: put yourselves in the shoes of other countries. Imagine another countries soldiers walking down your street with machine guns, tanks, and heavy artillery. They kill your neighbors and family in endless search for enemies of their state. I highly doubt, despite legal authorization of force in that country, you would feel the same way at that point.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Just because they had orders that were lawful under US law does not mean they are right. I will say again: put yourselves in the shoes of other countries. Imagine another countries soldiers walking down your street with machine guns, tanks, and heavy artillery. They kill your neighbors and family in endless search for enemies of their state. I highly doubt, despite legal authorization of force in that country, you would feel the same way at that point.
    That's political, and another discussion. Our soldiers were under lawful orders.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Its no wonder U.S. foreign policy is currently such a disaster. This thread exemplifies the current american response to any situation: gross ignorance and insecure juvenile posturing. "Lets kick turkey out of NATO because some leftwing students attacked U.S. sailors and we are too stupid to know they aren't Islamists." Contrary to popular belief, being a wannabe tough guy in foreign policy doesn't compensate for inadequacies in real life.
    Islamists are only capable of reaching orgasm inside the voting booth they don't protest anything.

    Also a fundamental difference between an islamist protest and a leftlist protest : female students.In this case female students were also detained.Islamists don't consider female students as human beings lol

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's political, and another discussion. Our soldiers were under lawful orders.
    I understand I am speaking on political. Politics contributed to the attack of these soldiers. Therefore politics need to be discussed. I will say again, despite the legality of orders in the US, that does not make it legal to kill innocent civilians. Just because the Nazis were under orders from Hitler, that did not justify their brutality and killings. Just because American soldiers are under orders does not justify their killings of innocent civilians in sovereign nations because those orders are not just.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Do you have links to stories about US servicemen being attacked in US airports? I haven't heard of any incidents.
    I see them often in my travels and they are very well respected by everyone.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I understand I am speaking on political. Politics contributed to the attack of these soldiers. Therefore politics need to be discussed. I will say again, despite the legality of orders in the US, that does not make it legal to kill innocent civilians. Just because the Nazis were under orders from Hitler, that did not justify their brutality and killings. Just because American soldiers are under orders does not justify their killings of innocent civilians in sovereign nations because those orders are not just.
    And you're basing your claim that American soldiers are targeting innocent civilians in sovereign nations on...?
    And perhaps if these sovereign nations were not hosts to terrorists that are behind international attacks on actual innocent civilians and were actually able to hold off those terror elements from spreading terrorism across the globe then an intervention by an outside force would not have been called for.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    As to the OP, it's disgusting.
    The very thought that these thugs would be allowed to attack the military personnel of another country and get away with it is unacceptable. Their faces are all caught on tape and it should be used to file a complaint against them and bring them to justice.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    And you're basing your claim that American soldiers are targeting innocent civilians in sovereign nations on...?
    And perhaps if these sovereign nations were not hosts to terrorists that are behind international attacks on actual innocent civilians and were actually able to hold those terror elements from spreading terrorism across the globe than an intervention by an outside force would not have been called for.
    I'm basing it on the fact that there are significant numbers of civilian deaths. As to your second point, there are more "terrorists" in the United States than any other country around the world according to the FBI. So, are you saying the US should call for outside force to help us out at home?
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