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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    WTF!!! There is crime in Turkey?

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    And can it be refuted that American law permits murder?
    Which law would that be?
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Which law would that be?
    authorizations of the use of force which result in the killing of civilians as collateral damage
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    authorizations of the use of force which result in the killing of civilians as collateral damage
    Well, if that's your definition of murder, then every country that ever fought a war is guilty of murder. Which essentially is every country in the world. Your definition doesn't cut it, I'm afraid.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

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    US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul - ABC News

    Three U.S. sailors were assaulted today by about 20 people on the streets of Istanbul, Turkey, and the assault was videotaped and then posted on the internet, the Navy said.The American embassy said the videotaped assault on the sailors was "appalling."

    The Navy said the sailors were on leave from the destroyer USS Ross when about 20 people who claimed to be from the Turkish Youth Union began "verbally and physically assaulting the sailors."[/FONT][/COLOR]

    The video shows one of the Turks telling the Americans, "We define you as murderers and killers and want you to get out of our land."

    The sailors were then shoved and had things thrown at them. Several of the Turkish men tried to grab one American sailor and white bags were produced which they tried to put over the sailors' head while other Turks chanted, "Go home, Yankee." The sailors wrenched themselves free."


    WTF? Turkey is one of our NATO allies, but they allow a cowardly gang of thugs to attack three US sailors? Where the hell were the Turkish police? These sailors were dressed in civilian clothes, yet they were deliberately rooted out, roughed up, had bags shoved over their heads, then they were chased by nearly two dozen of these assholes. And the Turkish government says..... *crickets*.....

    Why is Turkey even a part of NATO anyway? It refuses to allow US use of NATO bases in Turkey, it thwarts the US at every turn. Since when does Turkey have the right to pick and choose which NATO countries are "allowed" to use NATO bases, most of which were paid for in large part by US funds. This really chaps my hide.

    As a few of you may know I just spent a good amount of time in Iraq working security with the BBC for the past few weeks we were following Kurdish groups fighting ISIS ( or attempting to). I am back in Cyprus now ready to fly home later today and I can tell you from what I saw the Turks are doing everything they can to wash their hands of any heavy work and are still trying to distance themselves from the West. They wont even properly endorse the Kurds who are defending the border. They are historically a weak country who's own empire was dubbed the "sick man of Europe" as it simply fell away, they are not willing to stand behind us but at the same time try to distance themselves from the middle east. Time to leave them behind as far as I'm concerned and let them fend for themselves, plenty of other countries need support.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    How Turkey's government deals with these bastards should be weighed in the balance when deciding whether it still is in this country's interest for Turkey to be a member of NATO. The Islamist government there is no longer friendly with Israel, even though not many years ago relations between the two nations were very good. If Turkey is no longer friendly to this country either, then let it sink or swim on its own. The Turks need the U.S. far more than we need them.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    As a few of you may know I just spent a good amount of time in Iraq working security with the BBC for the past few weeks we were following Kurdish groups fighting ISIS ( or attempting to). I am back in Cyprus now ready to fly home later today and I can tell you from what I saw the Turks are doing everything they can to wash their hands of any heavy work and are still trying to distance themselves from the West. They wont even properly endorse the Kurds who are defending the border. They are historically a weak country who's own empire was dubbed the "sick man of Europe" as it simply fell away, they are not willing to stand behind us but at the same time try to distance themselves from the middle east. Time to leave them behind as far as I'm concerned and let them fend for themselves, plenty of other countries need support.
    Glad you made it out safely. Yours are a set of unique eyes so I have to ask, how effective are the Kurds and Iraqi army in fighting ISIS? Are they winning? Could you tell?

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    How Turkey's government deals with these bastards should be weighed in the balance when deciding whether it still is in this country's interest for Turkey to be a member of NATO. The Islamist government there is no longer friendly with Israel, even though not many years ago relations between the two nations were very good. If Turkey is no longer friendly to this country either, then let it sink or swim on its own. The Turks need the U.S. far more than we need them.
    Turkeys schizophrenic nature is in its history-its meeting of eastern and western values, and its attempts to straddle that line. I dont know how they will end up, but I agree-if they can't play nice with other NATO nations troops perhaps they dont need to be involved.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    And can it be refuted that American law permits murder?
    You don't make any sense.
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