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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

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    While I do not condone the attacks, can this notion be refuted?
    Yes it can, the sailors are performing their duties according to American law.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

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    US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul - ABC News

    Three U.S. sailors were assaulted today by about 20 people on the streets of Istanbul, Turkey, and the assault was videotaped and then posted on the internet, the Navy said.The American embassy said the videotaped assault on the sailors was "appalling."

    The Navy said the sailors were on leave from the destroyer USS Ross when about 20 people who claimed to be from the Turkish Youth Union began "verbally and physically assaulting the sailors."[/FONT][/COLOR]

    The video shows one of the Turks telling the Americans, "We define you as murderers and killers and want you to get out of our land."

    The sailors were then shoved and had things thrown at them. Several of the Turkish men tried to grab one American sailor and white bags were produced which they tried to put over the sailors' head while other Turks chanted, "Go home, Yankee." The sailors wrenched themselves free."


    WTF? Turkey is one of our NATO allies, but they allow a cowardly gang of thugs to attack three US sailors? Where the hell were the Turkish police? These sailors were dressed in civilian clothes, yet they were deliberately rooted out, roughed up, had bags shoved over their heads, then they were chased by nearly two dozen of these assholes. And the Turkish government says..... *crickets*.....

    Why is Turkey even a part of NATO anyway? It refuses to allow US use of NATO bases in Turkey, it thwarts the US at every turn. Since when does Turkey have the right to pick and choose which NATO countries are "allowed" to use NATO bases, most of which were paid for in large part by US funds. This really chaps my hide.
    These things happen. Tourists are attacked by gangs (literally thug gangs) from time to time while vacationing here. It sucks...
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    Not me, these were not ordinary criminal thugs nor were they the standard "jealous local guys". Rather, they were a relatively large group of religously motivated attackers.

    In short, this may well be grounds for concern.
    I think that we should be using a more realistic term. Attack just doesn't cut it. Harassed works better.
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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    This "gang" is called The Turkish Youth Union, and it is opposed to the current Turkish government, a government which has lately turned on its own people with the violent clashes last year. This was not an opportunistic group of street thugs; this attack was scripted and organized. The Turkish government is Islamic, and a large contingent of Turkish people are secular, so we've been seeing these clashes become more and more unstable.

    The current Turkish government has been more and more vocal in its displeasure with the US, so to see an avowed enemy of that government seek out US military members for a scripted and organized attack is frankly concerning to me. If the Islamic government is hostile to the US and the secular opponents of that government are also hostile to us, this does not bode well for our military in particular and NATO in general.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    These things happen. Tourists are attacked by gangs (literally thug gangs) from time to time while vacationing here. It sucks...

    You don't see as many of our military personnel in uniform traveling in the US airport anymore either. They aren't a target just overseas.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    We are a global arms dealer.


    You DON'T piss off the guy that supplies your military. As a general rule.
    Russia and China will gladly supply them.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Russia and China will gladly supply them.
    With second rate arms.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    With second rate arms.
    Really? I hear the Chinese are starting to sell their version of the F-35 they stole the design/technology for from the US.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Really? I hear the Chinese are starting to sell their version of the F-35 they stole the design/technology for from the US.
    It will compare to ours in the same way a Daewoo compares to a cadilac.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    It will compare to ours in the same way a Daewoo compares to a cadilac.
    at 50% the price tag, they can afford to buy two.

    Russia is only slightly behind the US in the arms market and they are closer by. Turkey has options. The US not so much

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