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Thread: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    No, I don't have any links. But you do not see uniformed members in airports traveling like you did when I was in military in early 70's. Maybe some current members of the military here can comment as to whether they are advised or ordered not to wear uniform.
    There are less of them.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Or what? Our administration will do nothing.
    Thats true.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    I can definitely say they are not religious or pro-goverment.Erdogan's voters don't protest anything trust me.
    The protestors were hardcore leftists.
    They reminded me of American leftists, actually-in how they acted and it was clearly intended to be filmed. Looked like the recent riots in Oakland.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    Islamists are only capable of reaching orgasm inside the voting booth they don't protest anything.

    Also a fundamental difference between an islamist protest and a leftlist protest : female students.In this case female students were also detained.Islamists don't consider female students as human beings lol
    This is true the dichotomy in Turkey between groups, its like watching videos out of Syria of the various factions of the FSA. The non-islamists dress in colors more and play popular music, with the islamists its monotone clothing and chants.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Turkey has requested $4,834,000 in aid for 2015, not a great deal. But if the EU does not allow Turkey entry I don't see their continuing NATO involvement as necessary either. Given recent events with the Kurds. and the rise of Islamism, they are not above suspicion.
    No, and if Turkey wants to play NATO with the west it will need to control itself.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I'm not suggesting that they should have.

    They just shouldn't have made an international ****ing incident out of it.

    Take your beating, lick your wounds, laugh about it with your buddies over beers 20 years later.

    No big deal.

    It was just a beating.
    Who made the international incident of this?

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    it is called revenge.yankees had done the same thing to our soldiers in northern ıraq in 2003


    now yankees are thugs ?
    Its called NATO, and western relations. If you think that this "revenge" is acceptable perhaps you should pursue relations with Russia instead?

    Can't have it both ways.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l see that but turkish soldiers didnt do anything either.sorry there is no civility in international arena.
    Well not in Turkey.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Attacking the local soldiers is just lazy. These random soldiers were not responsible for Iraq, they are just doing their job. Probably the biggest problem in the entire world is that people attack convenient scapegoats instead of their real problem. You have a problem with what happened in Iraq, come to America and beat up Bush. You have a problem with the current government in Turkey, blame Erdogan not the entire country.
    This is a very good post. Deserves its own thread.

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    Re: US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Turkey has options. The US not so much
    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Or what?
    Dude, are you seriously trying to say that the US couldn't strongarm turkey if they wanted to? You're considered the world's only superpower for a reason.

    There are many ways the US could push back at Turkey... I'll pick the most obvious one - we can support the Kurdish fighters in Iraq right on their border. You know that there is a strong Kurdish population in Turkey that would love to see an independent Kurdistan, right?

    Now that said, we're not going to go do that over a couple soldiers being pushed around. That would be disproportionate and stupid.... Turkey is an important ally. Just making the point here that for you to say that Turkey holds all the cards is foolish and wrong.

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