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US Sailors Victims of Videotaped Attack in Istanbul

US Conservative said:
Interesting. Do you think Turkey has the capability to do as much?
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The Turks are slow playing their hand. They wont go all in and openly engage in a war against ISIS instead they are more than happy to allow the Kurds to slow them down with the support of US air support. There is no way the Turks allow the Kurds a free state, I personally think they are waiting to see who wins in Kobane and will act accordingly. How else can you explain the build up of Turk forces on the border with so little military action thus far.
 
Higgins86 said:
The Turks are slow playing their hand. They wont go all in and openly engage in a war against ISIS instead they are more than happy to allow the Kurds to slow them down with the support of US air support. There is no way the Turks allow the Kurds a free state, I personally think they are waiting to see who wins in Kobane and will act accordingly. How else can you explain the build up of Turk forces on the border with so little military action thus far.
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I figured the had built up forces to prevent fighting from spilling over, and to return fire if it came across the border. Like they are doing in Syria.

Turkey is also receiving quite a bit of tech and military equipment from the US and is a NATO member. That would be on the line should they "actively" contribute in the region.

And finally, does Turkey even have the military capacity for any sustained ops in Iraq?
 
US Conservative said:
I figured the had built up forces to prevent fighting from spilling over, and to return fire if it came across the border. Like they are doing in Syria.

Turkey is also receiving quite a bit of tech and military equipment from the US and is a NATO member. That would be on the line should they "actively" contribute in the region.

And finally, does Turkey even have the military capacity for any sustained ops in Iraq?
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Problem is from what I saw ( don't pretend to be an expert) there is no centralized government or leadership. Baghdad is waiting for a US ground invasion, Iran is doing nothing and NATO is not committing. All Tukey have to do is wait for ISIS to back away from Kobane and focus on the Anbar region. Once that happens all US/NATO efforts will be focused on Anbar/Baghdad meanwhile Turkey will be free to march in and "secure" Kobane and the region. I don't see the fight staying near the Turkish border and when it leaves I fully expect the Turks to provide a buffer zone with the troops they have already deployed.
 
Higgins86 said:
Problem is from what I saw ( don't pretend to be an expert) there is no centralized government or leadership. Baghdad is waiting for a US ground invasion, Iran is doing nothing and NATO is not committing. All Tukey have to do is wait for ISIS to back away from Kobane and focus on the Anbar region. Once that happens all US/NATO efforts will be focused on Anbar/Baghdad meanwhile Turkey will be free to march in and "secure" Kobane and the region. I don't see the fight staying near the Turkish border and when it leaves I fully expect the Turks to provide a buffer zone with the troops they have already deployed.
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Interesting how that might pan out...Turkey moving into northern Iraq. I'd suspect ISIS would continue the fight, and the US would be against it.
What makes you say Baghdad is waiting for a US ground invasion?
 
US Conservative said:
Interesting how that might pan out...Turkey moving into northern Iraq. I'd suspect ISIS would continue the fight, and the US would be against it.
What makes you say Baghdad is waiting for a US ground invasion?
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I was there for 10 days a few weeks ago and the was panic because of the Anbar region and the fact Iran is right on the doorstep. Iraq's seem to think that the US will defend Baghdad and Fallujah because of the the US lives that died trying to "free" it and that the US will be humiliated if the region is invaded by ISIS.
 
Higgins86 said:
I was there for 10 days a few weeks ago and the was panic because of the Anbar region and the fact Iran is right on the doorstep. Iraq's seem to think that the US will defend Baghdad and Fallujah because of the the US lives that died trying to "free" it and that the US will be humiliated if the region is invaded by ISIS.
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Interesting but I think they have misread Obama, he'd gladly leave Iraq to the wolves. It would probably be different under a Republican POTUS.
 
US Conservative said:
Interesting but I think they have misread Obama, he'd gladly leave Iraq to the wolves. It would probably be different under a Republican POTUS.
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Lost faith in your president the minute he told the world we were leaving Afghan whilst my former regiment ( and brothers) were still fighting for their life's in Helmand.
 
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