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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    It just appears he is like everyone else who picks and choose what they think is offensive. Best bet for a smart person is to simply refuse to use any slang for a group of people.

    This pick and choose has been seen here in DP where many would find cracker offensive but okay with Redskins. Another ploy used by the pick and choose group is to throw in the PC card if there is objection to one of there chosen okay slang words.

    A person in congress should know better if not then they don't need to be there.
    There is a world of difference when referring to a group of people as "crackers" and referring to a sports team name who has a history of honor. Now if someone used the term "redskins" to refer to a group of people and considered that ok you would have a point. But the only time I hear about Redskins now a days is in reference to a sports team and from a group of people trying to force that team to change its name because they don't understand that context matters.

    Why can't people understand that context matters in any given situation? For instance I can refer to "niggers" in this post because I'm using it as a reference. Yet if I called a group of black people "niggers" straight out then I would be racist for doing so. Yet just referencing it in order to make a point is not racist in the slightest. Indeed if I or anyone else was considered racist for using the term "nigger" as a reference in order to make a point about racism then no honest talk about racism could ever be done.
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Ok so I can think of a number of other terms of endearment that are now free to use.

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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The bolded parts are so spot on.

    The question I have is when are politicians (on BOTH sides of the aisle) going to learn to move their mouths in sync with their brains. It seems they could use some seminars in public speaking.
    The problem with ol' Charlie, he has learned to speak to those who vote for him.

    Charlie hurls race cards, cheats on his taxes, does suspicious deals, always favorable to him. Headed the committee mostly responsible for the home loan problem, and still wins by a landslide.

    Charlie doesn't much care what you think of him.

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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    I called a band mate "Home Slice" one time and he got upset. I told him it was a term of endearment.

    Rangel should have known his choice was uncalled for.
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is one way to end hurtful names for different races. Make those names stand for tasty treats. Obviously, "cracker" means what it says. But what about "nigger"? Here is a commercial for a tasty treat called "niggers" to demonstrate this.....

    Woman at party: Damn, I see plenty of crackers at this party, but where are the niggers?

    Second woman: I see your point. Damn, you just can't have a party without niggers!!

    Announcer: Niggers, in the snack food aisle, right next to the Crackers. Don't throw a party without 'em.
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    There is a world of difference when referring to a group of people as "crackers" and referring to a sports team name who has a history of honor. Now if someone used the term "redskins" to refer to a group of people and considered that ok you would have a point. But the only time I hear about Redskins now a days is in reference to a sports team and from a group of people trying to force that team to change its name because they don't understand that context matters.

    Why can't people understand that context matters in any given situation? For instance I can refer to "niggers" in this post because I'm using it as a reference. Yet if I called a group of black people "niggers" straight out then I would be racist for doing so. Yet just referencing it in order to make a point is not racist in the slightest. Indeed if I or anyone else was considered racist for using the term "nigger" as a reference in order to make a point about racism then no honest talk about racism could ever be done.
    The other thing is there really isn't any comparison to the "Redskin" name and what Rangel did. The Redskins have had that name for many decades. For many years nobody said a word about it, and then when our politicians for some reason felt compelled to interject themselves in the discussion, it became a hotly contested issue.

    There is debate on the offensive nature of the name of the football team. Some say it is, some say it isn't. It's an old name, and wasn't initially chosen out of disrespect to any group.

    Calling a group of people you detest "white crackers", and then feigning ignorance and actually claiming you thought it was a "term of endearment", is just beyond comprehension.

    These 2 debates aren't even in the same hemisphere.
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Old man not up to speed on current lingo. News at 11.
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Personally I find everything offensive, I think we should all just quit talking period.
    Yooooou bastard. Do you have any idea how offensive this is?!
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    There is a world of difference when referring to a group of people as "crackers" and referring to a sports team name who has a history of honor. Now if someone used the term "redskins" to refer to a group of people and considered that ok you would have a point. But the only time I hear about Redskins now a days is in reference to a sports team and from a group of people trying to force that team to change its name because they don't understand that context matters.
    Then we'll just change the name of the Redskins to the Crackers, and everybody will be fine. Because. you know, context.


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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Then we'll just change the name of the Redskins to the Crackers, and everybody will be fine. Because. you know, context.
    No, the Redskins need to continue their proud tradition of honoring the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

    I would say we should call the Cowboys and Vikings "Crackers" and "Crackers II"
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