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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Gosh, a black man said something derogatory about white racists? Heavens to Murgatroyd!
    Who are the "white racists"?

    And no, he didn't say something derogatory, according to him. It was a "term of endearment".
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    All I know is that there was a baseball team in Atlanta - a minor league team - called the Atlanta Crackers. I don't believe that team was owned by Charlie Rangel, but perhaps you can prove me wrong.

    And it's all of you right wing folks getting your panties in a knot over what Rangel said. Not me, and sure as hell not Rangel.
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    All I know is that there was a baseball team in Atlanta - a minor league team - called the Atlanta Crackers. I don't believe that team was owned by Charlie Rangel, but perhaps you can prove me wrong.

    And it's all of you right wing folks getting your panties in a knot over what Rangel said. Not me, and sure as hell not Rangel.
    from wiki:
    Origin of the team's name[edit]
    According to Tim Darnell, who wrote The Crackers: Early Days of Atlanta Baseball, the origins of the team name is unknown.[5]

    Darnell cites several possibilities as to why this name was chosen:

    A term that means a poor, white southerner.
    Someone who is quick and efficient at a task.
    In reference to plowboys who cracked the whip over animals.
    A shortened version of "Atlanta Firecrackers", the earlier 1892 minor league team.
    However, this list does not represent the most likely origins of the name. The term "cracker" is derived from the Gaelic "craic", meaning entertaining conversation or boasting.[6] It was used in the 18th century to denote Irish and Scottish colonists of the Deep South backcountry. The Earl of Dartmouth had this to say in a 1766 correspondence: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."[6]

    During the period of Reconstruction following the American Civil War, there was also a political party of the same name. Organized in Augusta, Georgia, this party's platform was one of "opposition to Catholics and segregation of blacks."[7]

    While now sometimes used as a derogatory term for a white southerner that promotes racism, it is also used as a term of pride by white southerners to indicate one that is descended from those original settlers of the area.[6] It is much more likely that the Atlanta Crackers derived their name from the more positive usage, indicating they were proud to be Georgians.
    now, notice the pre-civil rights era span in which the crackers were active
    The Atlanta Crackers were minor league baseball teams based in Atlanta, Georgia, between 1901 and 1965.
    additionally, there was a negro league team by the name of the Atlanta Black Crackers (1919-31)

    this issue about the atlanta team name gives rangel NO cover
    he was stupid to use the expression "crackers"
    to pretend he did not know what he was doing when he effected the black dog whistle using the term "crackers" is about as credible as him not knowing his tax liability while also chairing the house ways and means committee
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    Re: Rep. Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'

    Charles Rangel says he thought cracker was 'a term of endearment'
    Actually, in some places, it is. For example, it is not uncommon in the state of Florida, to hear someone say, "He's a good ol' cracker boy."

    That means, that the person is a Florida native. Many, many, years ago, when people would drive cattle through Florida, to graze, the native Americans there, Seminoles and whatnot, could hear them coming from miles away as they could hear the cracks of their bullwhips. Thus, the term "cracker," in that particular region. There was no offensive meaning intended.

    But, in our new age of uber-political-correctness, one must watch what they say to whom, and where. For if anyone could possibly take offence to anything, they do. The same with "tar-baby."

    <edit> All apologies. After I posted this, I read some previous, more eloquent and detailed, posts that addresses this already.

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