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Stupidity of the American Voter?

Yet you couldn't notice that Oregon's exchange wasn't set up by Republicans......like you stated. Nor even how it played out. So you were wrong on that point. The usual.
Why do you insist on showing THAT YOU CANNOT READ? I never said "Oregon's exchange was not setup by Republicans", never once did I say anything like that, at all.
 
Funny. Most of the attack ads I've seen were regarding ISIS and EBOLA. But I will agree with you on one thing. Democratic senators ran away like the b**ches they are.

Hey that was a winning strategy :roll:

I didn't notice his post earlier but I saw the same thing you did (in NH anyway). I can't even remember an ad Scott Brown ran about the ACA. I remember one ad by a group pointing out that Jeanne Shaheen cast the deciding vote on it but that's it. Shaheen won (barely) but I also don't remember her mentioning the ACA ever.

Except for her (and a few gimmes, like Markey in MA), most of the Dem Senators were hiding in a closet somewhere on the issue.
 
Funny. Most of the attack ads I've seen were regarding ISIS and EBOLA. But I will agree with you on one thing. Democratic senators ran away like the b**ches they are.

Hey that was a winning strategy :roll:
Wasn't that also known as "The Wisconsin Strategy"?
 
Heya Lerxst :2wave: Good seeing you return.

But check this out and note why its History was in the Making. ;)


http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...-take-lead-obama-w-32-a-6.html#post1063971989

I just saw that. I'm not all that impressed at this point. Only because I know how easily American voters are swayed. I simply do not see it lasting over the next 24 months. When the Republicans fail to get it done, and they will, the pendulum will swing left again. Just like it always does. Nothing has actually changed with regard to the real governance of this country.
 
I just saw that. I'm not all that impressed at this point. Only because I know how easily American voters are swayed. I simply do not see it lasting over the next 24 months. When the Republicans fail to get it done, and they will, the pendulum will swing left again. Just like it always does. Nothing has actually changed with regard to the real governance of this country.


Here is where a lot of History took place ;) .....plus the GOP polls shows how the number is still more impressive now than before.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-el...e-historic-majorities-state-legislatures.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-el...mi-gop-gains-across-board-historic-sweep.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/south...-new-mexico-house-first-time-since-1950s.html

The Republicans even took all 3 branches in Nevada. Harry Reid is the only Democrat that won an election there.
 
I just saw that. I'm not all that impressed at this point. Only because I know how easily American voters are swayed. I simply do not see it lasting over the next 24 months. When the Republicans fail to get it done, and they will, the pendulum will swing left again. Just like it always does. Nothing has actually changed with regard to the real governance of this country.

The election was more than just the GOP taking back rhe Senate.

It included Governorships and State Congressional seats

To ignore the growing majority of Republican Representives at this point just comes off as sour grapes.
 
You mean the Right To Work For Less legislation, right? Let me preface my next response by saying I am an advocate for union reformation. Why are you seemingly willing to exclude unions from the political process? You might say it is taking union dues from workers who'd vote one way and send it the other. OK, but so does corporations. Now, if you're advocating in all or in part private money being excluded from the political process I'd be a friend and ally. If you're merely saying that these guys should have collective clout and say nothing of the flip side of that coin, well, obviously we'd have a discrepancy.

Let me provide full disclosure and divulge I've been a Teamster. Many, all-to-many times I felt that my union dues were merely going to cover the cost of protecting lazy, good for nothing, POS who should be kicked out on their ass. I showed up every day, got excellent reviews, did my job without fail and for all intents, didn't need union representation. Now my pay at the time was about 30-40% more than at a non union shop. It was that way because of union representation. So, what those 30% of teachers did essentially is say, well, we got what we got because of the union and now, well, piss off. The other end of the bargaining table loves this. Why? because it provides the context and framework to slowly, ever-so-slowly chip away at all the rights, benefits, salaries that the Union got them, which could have only be gotten through solidarity in collective bargaining.

Again, this isn't where the main ire I have lies, if people are too stupid to realize this is nothing but a "divide and conquer" strategy, they deserve what they get. God don't save stupid.

Just as often it is the right to work for more.

Man, the progressives are so quick to troll a post with accusations of "talking points" and here we have a classic case.

I was in a union in television, they said I could not be paid what the company had agreed to pay me because I was new.

The court said otherwise.

FFS, your communistic bull**** gets tiresome. How about chanting "workers of the world unite!" and sing solidarity forever. The world has changed, the concepts you spew are what destroyed your automobile industry. In the 21st century some of us have learned that merit trumps seniority and the result is a superior product, like the foreign cars that destroyed Detroit.

Solidarity Forever! Eat the rich! Down tools, why work when we can get drunk on picket line?
 
Wasn't that also known as "The Wisconsin Strategy"?

Yep. The crazy about it is Ebola wasn't a out of control epidemic.

Total infected = 5 (2 were doctors, 2 were nurses, 1 was patient)

Total infected on US soil = 2

Total death = 1


As of today, no one has it on US soil. However, the media was treating it like day 1 of the walking dead.
 
I didn't notice his post earlier but I saw the same thing you did (in NH anyway). I can't even remember an ad Scott Brown ran about the ACA. I remember one ad by a group pointing out that Jeanne Shaheen cast the deciding vote on it but that's it. Shaheen won (barely) but I also don't remember her mentioning the ACA ever.

Except for her (and a few gimmes, like Markey in MA), most of the Dem Senators were hiding in a closet somewhere on the issue.

One I didn't understand was Grimes running from it. Why didn't she mention that KY Kynect is ACA? Kynect is popular in Kentucky. McConnell didn't even bring it up.
 
One I didn't understand was Grimes running from it. Why didn't she mention that KY Kynect is ACA? Kynect is popular in Kentucky. McConnell didn't even bring it up.

She made a whole host of mistakes and I agree, that was one of them. Whoever handled her needs to find a new line of work. They were raging about her on MSNBC on election night and one of them, maybe Matthews, said exactly this.
 
Texas leads the Nation in Jobs Created across ALL income levels. Even HIGH paying jobs.

We're the destination for MILLIONS of Blue Plague State refugees from Liberal hell holes like California.

Which incidentally has the Nations HIGHEST poverty rates.

We're the destination for HUNDREDS of Bussinesses who've picked up their entire operation and moved out of States like California.

Thank god for Texas !!

Yes, low paying jobs. They are also low in nearly every other category. They thank God everyday for Mississippi. ;)
 
That isn't the Federal Government's role and the more you allow the Federal Govt. to do the more dependent you get on the Federal Govt

Debatable, but we have courts to contend that with.
 
Yep, that is why millions of people are moving to TX so they don't get health insurance, get paid a low wage, and breathe polluted air. That is of course why I moved here. Over half the uninsured in TX are eligible for state programs now but haven't signed up. Guess liberals would assign a nanny to them

Confusing causal relationship error. Texas is not the only state people are moving to. They don't lead the nation in that category either. But there are likely more than one reason why. The state benefits from tourism, among other things, and still rate near the bottom in a lot of categories. But here is some reading for you:

Oops: The Texas Miracle That Isn’t

Conservatives say the Lone Star state’s recent record of growth validates their economic agenda. That record crumbles upon inspection.

Oops: The Texas Miracle That Isn’t by Phillip Longman | The Washington Monthly
 
Didn't you get the memo?

The public is only smart when they vote republican agendas. :roll:

Let's see here... Gruber said that Obamacare was basically sold to the public using smoke and mirrors, because they (Obama, the Administration and Democrats on Capitol Hil) knew that the voting public was too stupid to know they were being lied to. Now since not one republican voted for Obamacare, and the conservatives and republican voters across America saw through the BS right from the start and very vocally opposed the passage of the bill, what specific voters do you think Obama and the democrats thought were too stupid to know any better?

You really should have given this entire situation a bit more thought before you made that comment, because it wasn't conservatives who were being played for fools by the Obama Administration, nor was it conservatives who bought into it hook, line and sinker either...
 
Confusing causal relationship error. Texas is not the only state people are moving to. They don't lead the nation in that category either. But there are likely more than one reason why. The state benefits from tourism, among other things, and still rate near the bottom in a lot of categories. But here is some reading for you:

Oops: The Texas Miracle That Isn’t

Conservatives say the Lone Star state’s recent record of growth validates their economic agenda. That record crumbles upon inspection.

Oops: The Texas Miracle That Isn’t by Phillip Longman | The Washington Monthly

LOL, why are you so jealous of TX? BLS gives a different story, Economic results paint a different picture, Census does the same as well but you post an op ed piece because that is what you want to believe. Must be frustrating today to be a liberal in a growing conservative environment.
 
I don't see any denials either.

Just more of the same moral justifications, as though when it comes to Obama there are different rules.

Critic:"He lied"
Obamalemming "He won didn't he? Romney is a moron!"
Critic: "it was wrong"
Obamalemming: "so what? Bush lied."


So, wasn't this Obama brand supposed to be better than the other brands? Wasn't this brand critical of the brand before?

But it seems he has adopted all the worst of his predecessors [except getting caught getting his knob polished in the Oval Office] and that's OK because Bush, Bush, Reagan, Eisenhower, and Nixon did it too.

That kind of reads to me like the LOWEST common denominator as opposed to what was promised as a highest common denominator.

For the die hards of both parties the debate goes, Is too, Is not, Is too, Is not. Yeah. Integrity, honesty, common virtues have been replaced by the attitude of I am the elite and I know what is best for you. You are too dumb to figure what is good and bad for you by yourself.
 
Just as often it is the right to work for more.

Man, the progressives are so quick to troll a post with accusations of "talking points" and here we have a classic case.

I was in a union in television, they said I could not be paid what the company had agreed to pay me because I was new.

The court said otherwise.

FFS, your communistic bull**** gets tiresome. How about chanting "workers of the world unite!" and sing solidarity forever. The world has changed, the concepts you spew are what destroyed your automobile industry. In the 21st century some of us have learned that merit trumps seniority and the result is a superior product, like the foreign cars that destroyed Detroit.

Solidarity Forever! Eat the rich! Down tools, why work when we can get drunk on picket line?

Oh, yeah, of course, unions where put in place as a reason to pay people less...:roll:

A progressive troll, moi? :lamo I'm sure there are about oh, uh, several dozen people on this sight who are scratching their heads on this one.

does it get tiresome? I know what I find tiresome, half witted comments based off half assed thoughts. That bores the hell out of me. :yawn:

Good day.

:2wave:
 
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Oh, yeah, of course, unions where put in place as a reason to pay people less...:roll:

A progressive troll, moi? :lamo I'm sure there are about oh, uh, several dozen people on this site who are scratching their heads on this one.

does it get tiresome? I know what I find tiresome, half witted comments based off half assed thoughts. That bores the hell out of me. :yawn:

Good day.

:2wave:


Union bosses that generate not one red penny to the profit of a company certainly are doing well. Why isn't that discussed

Union bosses' salaries put 'big' in Big Labor - Washington Times
 
The election was more than just the GOP taking back rhe Senate.

It included Governorships and State Congressional seats

To ignore the growing majority of Republican Representives at this point just comes off as sour grapes.

It's not ignoring it. The local (municipal and county) and state elections are carried out by the exact same people electing US Senators and Reps. Do you not understand that? If you go to the polls you vote local, state, and US all at the same time. So how does this change the nature of the voter turn out? Sour grapes? Hardly. It's not the end of the world nor is it the beginning of a new one. You folks that play in this "Us against Them" game of American politics can have your victory parties and gloat, or wallow in despair. I don't care. It will swing back eventually. Either way I can't care. Nothing is going to change in two years.
 
For the die hards of both parties the debate goes, Is too, Is not, Is too, Is not. Yeah. Integrity, honesty, common virtues have been replaced by the attitude of I am the elite and I know what is best for you. You are too dumb to figure what is good and bad for you by yourself.

Heya Pero. It appears Howard Dean has had enough.




Liberal Civil War Continues: Howard Dean Calls Obamacare Architects Elitist......
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Within 24 hours of the 2014 midterm election results pouring in, handing the Senate over to Republicans, outgoing Majority Leader Harry Reid unleashed his chief-of-staff to the Washington Post where he slammed the Obama White House for the Democrat bloodbath.

The problem is not that he said it. The problem is that he thinks it. The core problem under the damn law is it was put together by a bunch of elitists two don’t fundamentally understand the American people. That’s what the problem is," Dean said in response to Gruber's comments on MSNBC's Morning Joe.

It should be noted that when Dean talks about Gruber not "fundamentally understanding Americans," he's referring to those in his far-left base who want single-payer healthcare. Regardless, the civil war and the sniping within the Democrat party continues.....snip~

Liberal Civil War Continues: Howard Dean Calls Obamacare Architects Elitist - Katie Pavlich


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They may feel some shame in passing a bill they never even read, if shame even exists anymore. If they don't then they must share in the voters are stupid idea also.

LOL, yeah. Either the Democrats in congress thought the voters were stupid or they thought the voters had such short memories they would forget the Democrats went against the peoples wishes with the ACA was first passed. I think the people let it be known they didn't want it. Thanks to RCP, the polls when the law was first passed are below:

Below are the polls thanks to RCP of public opinion on the ACA when the Senate passed it in November of 2009
CNN/Opinion Research 12/2-12/3 36% for 61% Against/Oppose +25
Rasmussen Reports 11/29 - 11/29 41% for 53% Against/Oppose +12
Gallup 11/20-11/22 44% for 49% Against/Oppose +5
Ipsos/McClatchy 11/19 - 11/22 34% for 46% Against/Oppose +12
Rasmussen Reports 11/21 - 11/22 38% for 56% Against/Oppose +18
FOX News 11/17 - 11/18 35% for 51% Against/Oppose +16
PPP (D) 11/13 - 11/15 40% for 52% Against/Oppose +12

Below are the polls thanks to RCP of public opinion on the ACA when the House passed it in March of 2010
Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 38% for 50% Against/Oppose +12
CNN/Opinion Research 3/19 - 3/21 39% for 59% Against/Oppose +20
CBS News 3/18 - 3/21 37% for 48% Against/Oppose +11
Rasmussen Reports 3/19 - 3/20 41% for 54% Against/Oppose +13
Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 36% for 54% Against/Oppose +18
Democracy Corps (D) 3/15 - 3/18 40% for 52% Against/Oppose +12
FOX News 3/16 - 3/17 35% 55% Against/Oppose +20

I think the above polls says it all. The Democrats told the very people whom elected to stick it where the sun don't shine. The Democrats were the elite who knows best for the masses, the masses are dumb and stupid and do not have to be listen for. Let the elite make all the decision for them.
 
Heya Pero. It appears Howard Dean has had enough.




Liberal Civil War Continues: Howard Dean Calls Obamacare Architects Elitist......
pillowfight.gif



Within 24 hours of the 2014 midterm election results pouring in, handing the Senate over to Republicans, outgoing Majority Leader Harry Reid unleashed his chief-of-staff to the Washington Post where he slammed the Obama White House for the Democrat bloodbath.

The problem is not that he said it. The problem is that he thinks it. The core problem under the damn law is it was put together by a bunch of elitists two don’t fundamentally understand the American people. That’s what the problem is," Dean said in response to Gruber's comments on MSNBC's Morning Joe.

It should be noted that when Dean talks about Gruber not "fundamentally understanding Americans," he's referring to those in his far-left base who want single-payer healthcare. Regardless, the civil war and the sniping within the Democrat party continues.....snip~

Liberal Civil War Continues: Howard Dean Calls Obamacare Architects Elitist - Katie Pavlich


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Gimme some of that popcorn, MMC. From your link...
Now, after comments from Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber surfaced showing the administration lied to "stupid" Americans in order to get the legislation passed, former Democrat Presidential candidate and DNC Chairman Howard Dean is calling the architects of the law "elitist" who don't "fundamentally understand Americans."

"The problem is not that he said it. The problem is that he thinks it. The core problem under the damn law is it was put together by a bunch of elitists two don’t fundamentally understand the American people. That’s what the problem is,"
 
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