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Which ones were true and which were false?
You know what a provision is right?
Which ones were true and which were false?
Didnt see anything at the 37 mark. Something about transparency. Just because its not fully transparent does not mean its lying..
“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”
No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .He admits that the objective was to deceive the people. Deception = a lie.
Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that.."If you like your plan, you can keep your plan...period".
Wow! Were you one of Gruber's pupils??Didnt see anything at the 37 mark. Something about transparency. Just because its not fully transparent does not mean its lying..
No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .
Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..
No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .
Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..
That is correct "BO" did say that. Gruber did no say that.Well, the Bottomline was what BO was telling the American People, it was not a Tax. Yet here is Gruber telling us that's what it was all along.
What did he say they told the CBO and why?
Wow! Were you one of Gruber's pupils??
That is correct "BO" did say that. Gruber did no say that.
Simple. Political gain. This is politics afterall.
What part did you miss from Forbes wherein it states if Democrats had been honest? Was there some confusion about this?
Are you defending an outright lie by the president of the United States as nothing more than politics?? I guess that means that Bush's supposed lies about WMD's were cool in your book too, eh?Simple. Political gain. This is politics afterall.
Am I defending lies? No. Obama did lie about the "if you like your doctor you can keep it". But this example is a misquote.Are you defending an outright lie by the president of the United States as nothing more than politics?? I guess that means that Bush's supposed lies about WMD's were cool in your book too, eh?
Conspiracy! I think so!This is an important lesson for all non-liberals out there--lying, to the left, is necessary and essential if it means advancing its own political aims. Don't think they would lie about global warming because Americans are too stupid to know what is good for them? Think again.
How is this guy being misquoted? He was on air today apologizing for what he said. Yet here you are defending it.Am I defending lies? No. Obama did lie about the "if you like your doctor you can keep it". But this example is a misquote.
Liberals don't conspire to tells lies, they understand it is necessary to lie to get what they want. Obamacare is exhibit A.Conspiracy! I think so!
He no where said "we lied"How is this guy being misquoted? He was on air today apologizing for what he said. Yet here you are defending it.
You caught em! Scientists in cahoots withe green energy to make profits for green energy companies!Liberals don't conspire to tells lies, they understand it is necessary to lie to get what they want. Obamacare is exhibit A.
I miss the part which this article is misquoting him on..
He said specifically that aspects of the bill were misrepresented to get it passed. That's lying dude. You agree with the outcome so you defend the lie. That fits exactly into what I said about liberals in my very first post. Not only will liberals lie to get what they want, the will continue to lie even when caught. That is pretty sad.He no where said "we lied"
That's not what it is about at all. But I don't expect you to be honest about this any more than I would about anything else.You caught em! Scientists in cahoots withe green energy to make profits for green energy companies!
He said specifically that aspects of the bill were misrepresented to get it passed. That's lying dude. You agree with the outcome so you defend the lie. That fits exactly into what I said about liberals in my very first post. Not only will liberals lie to get what they want, the will continue to lie even when caught. That is pretty sad.
That's not what it is about at all. But I don't expect you to be honest about this any more than I would about anything else.
No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .
Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..
And then they argue before the SCOTUS that the fees are not fees, but taxes.
Bingo on the bolded part. Truth is liberalisms first victim.More disturbing is the complete lack of outrage from some about lying, misrepresenting, the con, to get a piece of legislation, a legislation with huge impact on every man woman and child, passed.
So lying of this magnitude, not just a little white lie, not a little lie to save someone's feeling, a big massive self-serving lie, by our political leaders is suddenly acceptable? Or is it acceptable only when it advances the liberal / progressive / Democrats agenda?
No one likes to be called stupid.
No one likes to be lied to.
This may very well hang around the 2016 Democrat candidate's necks like a millstone, and frankly, it should.
I wouldn't go that far. This last election was more a referendum on Obama than ideology, at least in my opinion. ABC's exit polls show 59% of those who voted were dissatisfied with the president to include 23% who were down right angry at him. 32% of those who voted said their vote was against Obama while only 20% said their vote was in support of Obama. Let's face it, the Republicans nationalized the election and for the most part ran against Obama. It is not that the Republicans put forth an agenda of their own like they did with the contract with America. They said if you are tired of Obama, vote for me.
We weren't told the truth. When you don't tell the truth, you're what? Lying, that's what.
What happens when the GOP looses the Senate in the future? Will they "still be waking up"?
What happens when the GOP looses the Senate in the future? Will they "still be waking up"?