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Stupidity of the American Voter?

That's just another reason why there has to be education reform.

Certainly there should be serious education reform but neither side really wants that, both want to use the public (and private) education system to crank out more people likely to think their way and elect their candidates.
 
What happens when the GOP looses the Senate in the future? Will they "still be waking up"?

The more that Americans learn about the Liberals, the less likely that becomes.
 
I disagree. It is not just a narrative etc. It is a fact. Our government is bought and paid for. **** that. We need to get that out of our political system. Worse thing they ever did was give corporations personhood. Absolute garbage.

First, I don't buy into the whole " Corporate Greed " false narrative. People blame them for everything from the 2008 Subprime mortgage crisis to or stagnant economy.

The reality is the Government has far more influence in the creation of BOTH of those things than Corporations do.

Next, organizations have had the ability to fund Political candidates for decades .

Citizens United pissed off Obama NOT because he thinks money should be removed from the election process, but because it officially ended a decades long monopoly held by the Democrats.

If Unions hold that right, then so should Corporations.

At least we have a track record to look at for the consequences of funding Political candidates through Unions.

And its NOT good.

I can't think of a better way to counter that destruction than allowing Corporations to do the same.
 
Of course....it is the fault of the parents! For years and years and years, the reason Texas parents have not enrolled their children in Medicaid at the state level...is because Texas parents are......dumb...or lazy....or unable to read.....or something.....you don't know and don't care.

It is a point of pride, Texas is number one..... in the uninsured!

Texas is number one in illegal aliens, too. Let's get a handle on illegal immigration and your insured numbers will look better, too.
 
The Democrats have had a monopoly on organized funding for Politicians for decades. Thats unfortunately part of our History. .

Now, the Unions have some competition, and everyone and their brother is screaming to get money out of politics.

It was never a issue before Citizens United, even though it led to a massive amount of corruption and chronyism

Corporations have a responsibility to their share holders, to their employees and to their consumers.

Its not " corporate greed " thats the problem. " Corporate Greed " is just a politicized narrate. A talking point.

The problem is the idea that the Government is in any context responsible for protecting us from that " greed ".

Giving the Government the power to first define " greed " arbitrarily and then to act on that definition is foolish beyond comprehension.

Greeting, Fenton. :2wave:

Unfortunately it has worked on a lot of people. As an example, the architect of the ACA called people too stupid to know what's good for them, and that's why there was no transparency, which was his explanation for why it was passed the way it was. Huh? That means that over 100 million people are stupid because they are unhappy with it?

WHY it continues to work is a mystery to me, only because the facts seem to change from week to week - how do the believers know when to change their thinking from A to B, so they can continue to believe what they're told on any given day? No core beliefs of their own? Scary! Most people don't like to be lied to on a personal basis, yet they accept it from government - who just change the words used in order to sell the latest round of what passes for "trust us - we know what's best for you," and then when people complain, they're told in exasperation to "get over it" :thumbdown:
 
Your choice. But my house has gone up in value, my mutual funds have rebounded and exceeding my own expectations. The job I lost during the Bush era has been replaced with even a better job that pays me more money. If things have gone south for you, I'm sorry. But I got mine.

Of-course your mutual funds have gone up, so has my 401k.

But I'm a realist and understand the huge amount of influence that the Feds QE has had on the equities markets.

I realize that the markets are over valued and I'm not counting my chickens just yet.

Corporations have chosen to spend upwards of 40 percent of their profits on repurchasing their excess over valued shares rather than use that profit to expand in a way that would create jobs.

Its not because they're greedy, or " mean " or they hate Obama.

Its because they don't want to risk their principle in a economy thats been on life support for the last 6 years.

In a economy thats stagnant, creating part time positions WITH interest rates down to nothing.

Its a objective indicator of the TRUE health of the US economy.

Another objective indicator is the massive amount of Excess reserves sitting on the FEDs balance sheets.

Over 80 percent of all that new liquidity created by the FED sits idle.

That means QE didn't do what it was supposed to do and banks would rather earn .25 percent on their record reserves than risk their principle in Obama's economy.

Corporations and Investors are sitting on their wealth, hoarding it offshore and NOT pushing it back into the economy. Again not because they're big " meanies ".

Its STILL too much of a risk 6 years in.

So I'm not impressed by the lefts empty claims of a economic recovery. They LIE.

ALL THE TIME.

Dishonesty is a defining characteristic of their ideology.
 
Your choice. But my house has gone up in value, my mutual funds have rebounded and exceeding my own expectations. The job I lost during the Bush era has been replaced with even a better job that pays me more money. If things have gone south for you, I'm sorry. But I got mine.

Thank God for Governor Walker, right?
 
First, I don't buy into the whole " Corporate Greed " false narrative. People blame them for everything from the 2008 Subprime mortgage crisis to or stagnant economy.

The reality is the Government has far more influence in the creation of BOTH of those things than Corporations do.

Next, organizations have had the ability to fund Political candidates for decades .

Citizens United pissed off Obama NOT because he thinks money should be removed from the election process, but because it officially ended a decades long monopoly held by the Democrats.

If Unions hold that right, then so should Corporations.

At least we have a track record to look at for the consequences of funding Political candidates through Unions.

And its NOT good.

I can't think of a better way to counter that destruction than allowing Corporations to do the same.

I don't agree. Corporate money is the bane of politics. If you think corporations should have personhood, than all I can say is you are an idiot. End of story.
 
Ah, from being "gay" to being a "troll".....and you still can't bring yourself to even begin to fathom the context of the argument.

Further, so many of the projections were based on states cooperating with federal enrollment. If the states decide to hinder or outright block enrollment of the purchase of insurance by those seeking it, is the administration responsible for that?

What in the name of God are you babbling about? Who said anything about anyone being gay? I think you stepped into the wrong thread, son.
 
Greeting, Fenton. :2wave:

Unfortunately it has worked on a lot of people. As an example, the architect of the ACA called people too stupid to know what's good for them, and that's why there was no transparency, which was his explanation for why it was passed the way it was. Huh? That means that over 100 million people are stupid because they are unhappy with it?

WHY it continues to work is a mystery to me, only because the facts seem to change from week to week - how do the believers know when to change their thinking from A to B, so they can continue to believe what they're told on any given day? No core beliefs of their own? Scary! Most people don't like to be lied to on a personal basis, yet they accept it from government - who just change the words used in order to sell the latest round of what passes for "trust us - we know what's best for you," and then when people complain, they're told in exasperation to "get over it" :thumbdown:


Heya Lady P. :2wave: Only word that needs to keep going round is.....BO lied and committed Fraud upon the People. Scammed the Government. All the way until 2016.....and anytime Democrats even think about feeling their Wheaties.


Words associated with BO peep.....Liar, Con-man/BS Artist. Dishonest, and Narcissist. The Failed Democrat experiment......a President in Training.
 
The more that Americans learn about the Liberals, the less likely that becomes.

Interesting. Saying several "liberal ideas" passed by popular referendum this election cycle; raising the wage, legalization of marijuana....
 
Interesting. Saying several "liberal ideas" passed by popular referendum this election cycle; raising the wage, legalization of marijuana....

Ya think Democrats should brag about Obamacare on the campaign trail, in the future?
 
Interesting. Saying several "liberal ideas" passed by popular referendum this election cycle; raising the wage, legalization of marijuana....

Which goes to show that things can happen and should happen in the states, not at the Federal Level. There is no reason for a national minimum wage when the states can raise the wage to make it more in tune with the state economy and cost of living
 
Ya think Democrats should brag about Obamacare on the campaign trail, in the future?

Yes I do, especially when the majority of Americans are told about the key points in the bill they agree with them. Democrats sucked at marketing this issue.
 
Yes I do, especially when the majority of Americans are told about the key points in the bill they agree with them. Democrats sucked at marketing this issue.

So, you think Democrats should amplify the fact that the Democrats in Congress and The White House lied like dogs, just to get the bill passed?
 
So, you think Democrats should amplify the fact that the Democrats in Congress and The White House lied like dogs, just to get the bill passed?

"Lied like dogs"? No. I think they should campaign on the fact that the majority of Americans actually agree with the majority of key provisions in the ACA.
 
"Lied like dogs"? No. I think they should campaign on the fact that the majority of Americans actually agree with the majority of key provisions in the ACA.

How do they escape the reality that the people who crafted the bill relied on the, "stupidity of The American People", to get the bill passed? How do they shake off the fact that the people were lied to? And, why are you defending this kind of dishonesty? Are you in agreement with this clown?
 
It is one of those things. Our government has left us behind for the money given by corporate interest, and greed. Their only concern is re election. We seriously need to get corporate money out of the election process and end their influence on what the American people want. Our history is based on freedom, not corporate greed.

All I can say is people outside the US do not really understand the American culture or were we come from. They don't understand why we hold our freedom so dear, built on the blood of patriots, not government.

I am a little ****ed up, but this does not change why we love our freedoms and those who would sell it to the highest bidder need to be shot as traitors.

Well said! And our government left us behind a long time ago. It isn't just for money though. It's for power. It's for adoration. It's like watching girls campaign for homecoming queen. I often think the founding fathers must be rolling in their graves at what's happened.
 
How do they escape the reality that the people who crafted the bill relied on the, "stupidity of The American People", to get the bill passed?
We are a stupid country...

How do they shake off the fact that the people were lied to? And, why are you defending this kind of dishonesty? Are you in agreement with this clown?
"Lied to"?
 
I don't agree. Corporate money is the bane of politics. If you think corporations should have personhood, than all I can say is you are an idiot. End of story.
Worse are the lying politicians and the voters who will continue to support them.
 
"Lied like dogs"? No. I think they should campaign on the fact that the majority of Americans actually agree with the majority of key provisions in the ACA.
What? You didn't even know what those 'key provisions" were, and likely still don't.
 
I don't know how a country can be stupid--that word describes individual people. And in any case, there are a hell of a lot of brilliant people in the United States.
There is no doubt about that!!
 
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