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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    (*sarcasm*) Just WONDERFUL the position these lying bastards put the electorate and the country. Fill in a $1T hole in the budget due to ObamaCare and it's fall out. Almost makes Iraq AND Afghanistan look like a 'good' thing.

    Well, they've left one hell of a mess for the Republicans to clean up. Are these idiot parties in competition who can leave the larger mess?

    Most disappointingly, I don't think that anyone is going to be any the wiser for it.
    Greetings, Erik.

    I don't understand why something that is supposed to take place in 2018 can't be nipped in the bud now! If it never starts, it won't need to be stopped - or am I missing something?

    Erik, this is getting worse by the day - I'm beginning to believe that Obama and his "bosses" really do hate America. Why do we need to be brought to our knees - have we been that wrong all these years that we deserve this? We gave so many lives to help others - doesn't that matter to anyone but us?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I know that. I am about as anti-aca as anyone but even if the people, the electorate knew what he said back then or even if he said before the the vote on the aca in congress, do you think it would have changed one vote in congress? I don't. If Americans were against the ACA, 38% for, 58% against and you still had the democrats pass it, do you think even if only 30% of all of America was for it, the democrats would change one vote. No, it was they parties agenda and they were going to pass it even if 99% of all America was against it.
    I think there may have been more of an outcry, and it might have been harder to pass (more kickbacks would be required from the dems). But we will never know.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think there may have been more of an outcry, and it might have been harder to pass (more kickbacks would be required from the dems). But we will never know.
    You're right there. I suppose this falls into the what if category.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Erik.

    I don't understand why something that is supposed to take place in 2018 can't be nipped in the bud now! If it never starts, it won't need to be stopped - or am I missing something?

    Erik, this is getting worse by the day - I'm beginning to believe that Obama and his "bosses" really do hate America. Why do we need to be brought to our knees - have we been that wrong all these years that we deserve this? We gave so many lives to help others - doesn't that matter to anyone but us?
    Greetings, Polgara.

    I honestly have no idea.

    Being an immigrant's son, with the work ethic that comes along with that, I've worked hard and earned what I have. I've always been cautious how I spend and on what I spend, some say I make nickles squeak. There's no frame of reference that I have which can help me understand what these people are doing or why.

    From my view, if everyone works hard, applies themselves, catches a good break or two, they'll have a pretty decent life. Why would anyone want to damage or destroy, or make it any harder than that? I just can't relate to it.

    But what I do know is I don't like it. Not so much for myself, but for our children, as they are going to have a much harder time achieving even that much in life. It makes me sad and angry at the same time.

    If the people who caused this aren't held accountable, there'll be no reason for it not to repeat again in the future, and further damage / destroy our prodigy's possible life outcomes. The people who did this must be held accountable.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Greetings, Polgara.

    I honestly have no idea.

    Being an immigrant's son, with the work ethic that comes along with that, I've worked hard and earned what I have. I've always been cautious how I spend and on what I spend, some say I make nickles squeak. There's no frame of reference that I have which can help me understand what these people are doing or why.

    From my view, if everyone works hard, applies themselves, catches a good break or two, they'll have a pretty decent life. Why would anyone want to damage or destroy, or make it any harder than that? I just can't relate to it.

    But what I do know is I don't like it. Not so much for myself, but for our children, as they are going to have a much harder time achieving even that much in life. It makes me sad and angry at the same time.

    If the people who caused this aren't held accountable, there'll be no reason for it not to repeat again in the future, and further damage / destroy our prodigy's possible life outcomes. The people who did this must be held accountable.
    Im an immigrants son as well. Whats with all the silly BS around these days? Just work hard and you will do fine. Why do things need to be more complicated? Because of the few who wont do fine? Because of those who wont work?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its a wealth redistribution scheme, to take money from the relatively young and healthy and transfer it to the old and sick.
    That's exactly how private insurance works too. They are both scams. Taking money from the young and healthy.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leeburte View Post
    That's exactly how private insurance works too. They are both scams. Taking money from the young and healthy.
    Private insurance is generally voluntary. The ACA is not.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's a commie. His objective is to turn the United States inro a socialist, third-world country. This stupid mother****er sees America as the root of all evil.
    I can't tell if your talking about Obama, Bush or Reagan. They all increased spending and increased the size of government (Bush to unprecedented amounts). Reagan gave amnesty to illegals and doubled the amount of money my taxes get used to feed people in other countries who I've never met before. Bush spent my tax dollars like they were his own personal credit card. The only difference between liberals and conservatives is liberals admit they like to blow money. Conservatives tell me they don't and sneakily reach into my pocket once they're elected.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Private insurance is generally voluntary. The ACA is not.
    You mean it's voluntary if you don't mind not getting health care? Health care itself isn't really voluntary, so I don't know why you would want uninsured people roaming the country. Are you against forcing motorists to carry insurance, too?

    Just like with vehicles, the uninsured in health care drive up costs. Think of that giant hospital bill you and your insurance company pay to be akin to a larger version of the uninsured/under-insured policy you pay for with your vehicle.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Private insurance is generally voluntary. The ACA is not.
    Well then quit complaining about the method and complain about the real issue, the mandate.

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