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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Everything is about the big bad scary "s word".
    But you failed to answer my question, so I guess I'll ask again: "You dont think the Democrats can take back the Senate by 2016 if not then 2020? "
    If they do it only underscores what Gruber had to say about the American voter.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Didn't you get the memo?

    The public is only smart when they vote republican agendas.
    You seem to have missed the memo. It is a Democrat strategist who is calling the American voter (ie their supporters) stupid.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    ACA is a liberal policy and that is a problem. Bailing out the Unions are liberal policies and those are a problem, Wealth redistribution and class warfare are liberal policies and those are problems. Obama's results are a disaster as are all Progressive policies because they destroy individual incentive
    You are simply wrong. The PPACA was passed with the intent to address a problem--sick people have no "individual incentive" if they cannot get treatment because they had a history of cancer, heart issues, diabetes, etc. and were either ineligible for insurance or were so highly rated that it was unaffordable. Obama was willing to not have an individual mandate but Reid refused to pass any legislation that did not include it. Without the mandate, the PPACA would not have been such a disaster. The market would have have adjusted more naturally. There have been other reports over the years that Obama was willing to compromise on certain things with the GOP but either Harry or Nancy would chain him to the post, mostly Harry. One of the first major changes you will see to the PPACA now that Harry is out of blocking power is the repeal of the medical device tax that will clear the Senate with democratic support. You will see a GOP minimum wage increase offered up which is a "liberal wealth redistribution" mechanism.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It took every stretch and twist of every trick known to American politics and law, and liberals still had to pass the ACA in the middle of the night. Nancy Pelosi admitted that nobody in Congress even bothered to read it on the Democratic side. Too many silly, stupid Americans didn't even know what was really happening.

    The smoke-and-mirror posturing and blatant lies caught up with them, and now they're paying the price.

    Republicans were just awarded the task of shredding the ACA in its ridiculous form, and destroying Obama's attempt to rig American politics for the foreseeable future.
    The Supreme Court may save them the trouble. The challenge they agreed to hear the other day claims Congress lacked authority to set up federal exchanges in states that chose not to set them up themselves. Another challenge which may reach the Court claims the Obamacare law is a bill for raising revenue (remember that the Court said the individual mandate is a tax), and yet did not originate in the House, as the Origination Clause requires all such bills to do.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    At the same time hypocrisy is always a two way street. I distinctly remember it was the right saying that voters were stupid and just wanted their government benefits (hell, in my more...uhm...upset moments, I probably said it myself). Let's face it, both sides will claim that voters are stupid when they vote for the other side.
    I don't think voters are any stupider this go'round than they were in 2006 and 2008. I think they have always been this stupid, and are probably getting stupider as the years go on.

    I get accused of being a conservative/Republican all the time, simply because I tend to argue against Democrats/liberals more. The reason for this is that the GOP is chocked full of crazy asshats who say stupid things on a daily basis, whereas the Democrats spend a lot more effort on their marketing strategies. The American voter/goldfish can't seem to remember the authorization of force for Iraq had many, many more than two points on it, yet can still quote Todd Akin verbatim. The goldfish do a great job attacking the GOP so I don't have to.

    But when I turn on the radio and hear people who possess the patina of intelligence, education, and rationality say things that obviously contradict themselves from just a few years ago.... it makes me sad. I hate to say it, but I think we as a country deserve every bad thing that happens to us simply because we get so wrapped up in identity politics that we can't identify stupidity if it comes from our chosen team.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not according to this article and others. All you have left is your pretense.
    "if you like your plan you get to keep it, if you like your doctor, you get to keep him" Which lie do you support?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That would be a better system. It would return more jobs hoe than tax cuts would.
    Spoken like a true liberal who believes the govt. needs the money more than the private sector, probably a govt. employee?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    But this JAR cycle is nothing new. I seem to recall the last presidents JAR was even lower than Obama's, as a wave of democrats took the House for the first time in a decade. I am reminded of an old John Prine lyric, "And all of the news just repeats itself."
    But this is about the architect of Obamacare deliberately obfuscating the contents and lying about them, just as Obama did by claiming "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan'. They are openly saying to the American voter claiming they are too 'stupid' to understand what's in the bill, and Obama still gets 41%. If a President can lie and call the American people stupid yet still get 41%, doesn't Gruble have a very strong point?
    Last edited by Grant; 11-11-14 at 02:35 PM.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Speaking of the stupidity of the American voter, here's a little article I ran across from a Canuck perspective.

    Attachment 67175749
    "There is no inflation"

    If there wasn't I would be ****ting my pants right now because something is wrong with the economy.

    A healthy 3% inflation rate is generally agreed upon by all economists to be the best thing for a country in terms of inflation/deflation.

    Also, "unemployment" is under 6% but in reality it is actually 10%.

    There are a lot of factors that aren't considered in that bogus "6%" statement.

    That being said, yes, I believe our economy is growing and doing well. In fact, as the world around us seems to be slowing down America is slightly speeding up.

    Europe is sucking ass.

    Japan is sucking ass.

    China is slowing down.

    3rd world countries are sucking ass because China is no longer importing raw material to build more ghost cities.

    But the USA... The USA is rising... Strange. Not unpleasant, just strange. I would wait before we make any assumptions, we aren't sure what the future really holds. Based on my somewhat ignorant view though, I say because the USA is kicking ass and taking numbers.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    WTF?

    No, they are just ignorant talking points to the mindless minions who know and understand nothing more than conservative talk radio and Fox news.
    Obama loves having people like you. The election last Tuesday said it all. Guess we know what side you sit on. Results don't matter because it is all about the rhetoric

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