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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What happens when the GOP looses the Senate in the future? Will they "still be waking up"?
    I didn't realize the Senate was shackled. When did that happen?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Could be better... but gaining well over 200,000 jobs a month as opposed to losing 700,000 jobs a month... massive improvement.
    Job losses peaked at 700,000. It wasn't losing that much, as you can't exponentially loss that many jobs a month without the labour force being depleted at some point or another. The economy begins to loss jobs, the total number of jobs peak at some point, and then the losses begin to deteriorate, just like any other recession.

    As for the massive improvement, I don't really see it. Even during the recession average hourly earnings growth was 3.59% annualised. Since the beginning of the economic expansion, annualised earnings averaged around 2%. This means that all of the good jobs that were eliminated in the aftermath of the recession have been replaced by low wage jobs. I guess that compared to no or low job growth is considered a 'massive improvement,' but it really only seems that way if you lower your expectations.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    I didn't realize the Senate was shackled. When did that happen?
    Did I say they were "shackled" or are you just making things up?


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Really? SO how about you reading it for me especially the 2010 numbers after all those shovels were delivered? What am I missing?
    Better yet... read it to us rather that just cutting and pasting. Stand on your own two feet. Tell me what it's saying... then it'll be a breeze to tell you what you are missing.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreetVixen View Post
    Job losses peaked at 700,000. It wasn't losing that much, as you can't exponentially loss that many jobs a month without the labour force being depleted at some point or another. The economy begins to loss jobs, the total number of jobs peak at some point, and then the losses begin to deteriorate, just like any other recession.

    As for the massive improvement, I don't really see it. Even during the recession average hourly earnings growth was 3.59% annualised. Since the beginning of the economic expansion, annualised earnings averaged around 2%. This means that all of the good jobs that were eliminated in the aftermath of the recession have been replaced by low wage jobs. I guess that compared to no or low job growth is considered a 'massive improvement,' but it really only seems that way if you lower your expectations.
    Whatever economic metric you want to use it will be better. Unemployment? MUCH better. GDP... much better because it's growing rather than collapsing. The only one I think isn't much better is the median income because jobs lost under the Great Bush recession are coming back but at lower wages in general.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Just speaking for myself here, but my world fell out from under my feet in 2006 when the plant moved to Mexico. By 2008 I was still unemployed and my life savings were circling the drain. By 2009 I was gainfully employed again making decent money. I get a 3% raise each year and I have started a successful side business serving court papers, after hours, that rakes me in 100.00-150.00 extra dollars a day. My life savings have rebounded and even skyrocketed.

    Life is good here in Captain Americanville. But I give neither the blame or the credit to any politicians. I credit myself, (and I do so modestly. )

    Like Rush Limbaugh says, "If you don't like the bad economy, don't participate!"

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Bush had the right idea....start privatizing it. Too many Americans just do not realize how much they are getting screwed by the government in regards to Social Security.
    I think thats what it is-a lack of information. Ive been telling this to people for years, but many have never heard it before.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think thats what it is-a lack of information. Ive been telling this to people for years, but many have never heard it before.
    Yes. Privatize Social Security just as Bush tried to do. I encourage the entire Republican party to stand up and shout this from the hilltops. I wonder why they don't?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Did I say they were "shackled" or are you just making things up?
    No, you ask the question...something about what happens when the Republicans LOOSES the Senate...

    Once again...I didn't realize they were bound, shackled or tied up. Maybe you meant LOSES?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yes. Privatize Social Security just as Bush tried to do. I encourage the entire Republican party to stand up and shout this from the hilltops. I wonder why they don't?
    Its not politically feasible, especially while the IGM boomers are around.

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