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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Like what? Most of what I saw was done by the community, churches, charities, etc. What are you calling welfare?
    Today many places like homeless shelters recieve city funding rather than private funding.

    Interesting article here:

    Helping America's Homeless: CHAPTER ONE

    Studies of skid row populations in the 1950s and 1960s (Bahr and Caplow 1974; Bogue 1963; Wiseman 1970) provided a different lens on homelessness. The situations they studied were different. These studies described a population, mostly of single men, who were housed, lived steadily in a particular part of a particular city, but lived by themselves. That is, they did not live with any family members although they clearly lived in hotel rooms with many other people on the same and adjacent floors. Very few men in these communities would have been classified as literally homeless by today’s formal government definition, yet they were considered homeless by the people who studied them. Even the U.S. Census Bureau, as late as the 1980 decennial census, identified people who lived by themselves and did not have a "usual home elsewhere" (i.e., with family) as "homeless." This way of thinking about homelessness reflects a cultural expectation that the "normal" way to live is in a family, and that something is wrong when people live by themselves. "Home" in this usage implies people, not physical shelter.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

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    Howard Dean had me rolling on the floor this morning. Was that not hilarious? Even Mika was like "WTF".

    Gruber really torpedoed Obama's signature legislation. It's only Howard Dean and some Liberal posters who think otherwise.
    Obama's legacy legislation. The dems false profit.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm not jealous? I'm merely pointing out facts to you.
    No you are pointing out your version of the facts and those of an op ed writer none of which are confirmed by BLS, Treasury, Census, or other economic sites

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by michijo View Post
    Today many places like homeless shelters recieve city funding rather than private funding.

    Interesting article here:

    Helping America's Homeless: CHAPTER ONE
    Okay, a homeless shelter being paid for by a city, county for that matter with no federal government involved is not what I would refer to as welfare today. Churches and organizations like the Salvation Army also did stuff like that. It was local, a city doing what it thought was right. In town the city had set up a free clinic for the poor, staffed by volunteer doctors and nurses donating their time. But again no federal involvement. Was that welfare, I suppose it was. But it was regulated or run by the federal or even the state government. It was people doing what they thought was right on their own because that was what they wanted to do.

    People would donate of their time, energy and money because they wanted to. Not to be taxed for this government program or that program. It was entirely voluntarily.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Money is a fiction. No use fighting over it.
    Money merely represents resources. Your leftist delusion that people will not compete for these resources goes against human history and human nature in general. Its one reason why leftism does so poorly in reality-because it does not recognize reality.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I understand the sentiments. But some people, how many is anyone's guess wouldn't save or invest a penny.
    I dont see how that makes legalized plunder acceptable. I'd even support just an opt-out.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    My understanding is 2 appeal courts ruled in favor of going with what Democrat congressmen said they meant, not what they wrote and 1 appeal court ruled in favor of what the law actually said on paper and not what Democratic congressmen said they meant. So the split in the appeals courts means the SCOTUS will have to rule.
    Interesting. The right leaning justices are decent at interpreting the law as it was written, while the left is much more "feely" about it. I wonder how that ruling would turn out, but the headlines keep coming about the ACA and it appears the "masterminds" (ha) of the bill actually intended to lie to the American people. Im wondering if this vote will break down along political lines.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont see how that makes legalized plunder acceptable. I'd even support just an opt-out.
    that would be okay with me.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Interesting. The right leaning justices are decent at interpreting the law as it was written, while the left is much more "feely" about it. I wonder how that ruling would turn out, but the headlines keep coming about the ACA and it appears the "masterminds" (ha) of the bill actually intended to lie to the American people. Im wondering if this vote will break down along political lines.
    Oh I am sure it will.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    People would donate of their time, energy and money because they wanted to. Not to be taxed for this government program or that program. It was entirely voluntarily.
    Voluntary and virtuous. Today we are to believe the lefts premise that forcible redistribution of other peoples wealth is "generous" while wanting EVERYONE to keep what they earn is somehow "selfish". And in the end its the second group that ends up giving more (voluntarily), thats actually the virtuous choice, imo.

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