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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yeah LOL. Only a Democrat would call the agenda put forth by the Democrats moderate, but it isn't to all those Americans in the middle, the center left and center right crowd, moderates if you will. This nation and the voters have a long history of kicking out a party that goes to far left or right. You seen it in 2006 when the voters decided they had enough of the conservative agenda, you saw it again in 2010, the ACA and in 2014 when the voters decided they had enough of the liberal agenda.

    Here is something to put in your pipe and smoke, to think about:

    Majority in U.S. Want GOP in Congress to Set Nation's Course

    I think Obama fatigue has set in, the only question is will it stay like Bush fatigue did from 2006 into 2008 or can he right his ship? I'll be watching that.
    I think it's too late for him to right the course. And he is too much of a narcissist to accept that he has driven his party off the cliff.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I think it's too late for him to right the course. And he is too much of a narcissist to accept that he has driven his party off the cliff.
    It's doomed Hillary as well, even if she does run as the anti-Obama.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's doomed Hillary as well, even if she does run as the anti-Obama.
    As the elections last week proved....a democrat running away from Obama no longer works.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The dems dont care about "the people", they care about their agenda and are more than willing to lie to achieve that. I think measures to gut the ACA are still very much doable, this isn't as entrenched as say social security (which I also oppose).
    I think social security is needed, there are people who can't save for retirement or just won't. I really do not know what is doable when it comes to the ACA. I do know it was rushed through without much thought and the American people are against it. It does seem it was born with lies and lies have continued now for 5 years.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I'd expect Obama to veto anything from congress as long as he's in power, but what can he do against SCOTUS?
    That all depends on how the SCOTUS rules. Will the SCOTUS rule for what the law says in black and white or will they rule against that and go with what Democrats in congress say they meant to say or write in the law even though they didn't.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think social security is needed, there are people who can't save for retirement or just won't. I really do not know what is doable when it comes to the ACA. I do know it was rushed through without much thought and the American people are against it. It does seem it was born with lies and lies have continued now for 5 years.
    Perhaps they won't save because they're relying on the government to look after them. I hope the money is there but a $20 trillion debt and an aging population is a hard nut to overcome. We may actually have to go back to helping our neighbors again.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I think it's too late for him to right the course. And he is too much of a narcissist to accept that he has driven his party off the cliff.
    That may depend on how the Democrats react to last week. Several posters had said the Democrats loss was due to the fact they failed to get their message across, if they stick with that then they didn't learn anything. Some posters blamed turn out, but according to the exist polls more Democrats turned out to vote than Republicans by a 37-34 margin. Blame turnout and again they fail to learn anything from last week.

    I have only one thing to say to both parties, "It's the economy stupid." The Democrats were elected in 2008 to fix the economy, instead they concentrated on health care. 78% of those who voted said they were worried about about the economy in the years ahead. This is where priority number one should be focused by both parties, not on immigration reform being rattled about by the president. Listening to him he didn't learn anything either.

    Did the Republicans?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps they won't save because they're relying on the government to look after them. I hope the money is there but a $20 trillion debt and an aging population is a hard nut to overcome. We may actually have to go back to helping our neighbors again.
    I grew up in the 50's when all the social safety net was social security. Helping each other out is exactly what we did. Speaking of the social net, did you see this poll:

    Medicare - Rasmussen Reports™
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think social security is needed, there are people who can't save for retirement or just won't. I really do not know what is doable when it comes to the ACA. I do know it was rushed through without much thought and the American people are against it. It does seem it was born with lies and lies have continued now for 5 years.
    With SS I think it should be gradually faded out, maybe with the boomers, maybe anyone over 40 can keep it, or make it optional. I would have much more if I invested that money that has been involuntarily taken from me for years by the time I retire. One size fits all aint my thing.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That all depends on how the SCOTUS rules. Will the SCOTUS rule for what the law says in black and white or will they rule against that and go with what Democrats in congress say they meant to say or write in the law even though they didn't.
    Isn't it just a yes or no thing? With any additional q's addressed first in lower courts and then if and only if-they'd "clarify" with another ruling.

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