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Stupidity of the American Voter?

Gimmesometruth said:
How many times does a complete lie need to be corrected before you admit you were wrong? I have showed you multiple times that Tx hospitals receive federal dollars for the uninsured.
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Only for Medicaid as that is a joint program. We aren't talking Medicaid, we are talking Obamacare
 
Gimmesometruth said:
How many times does a complete lie need to be corrected before you admit you were wrong? I have showed you multiple times that Tx hospitals receive federal dollars for the uninsured.
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Only for Medicaid as that is a joint program. We aren't talking Medicaid, we are talking Obamacare
 
Conservative said:
What really is stupid is the liberal rhetoric that this is a federal program vs an individual and state responsibility. Just like minimum wage, states handle their own issues and that is where healthcare belongs. Rhetoric trumps reality in the liberal world and you prove it every day. You do not pay for the uninsured in TX, I do
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Right up until you have states that say screw it, we're not doing it. While the way we're doing it now simply isn't working, I don't think that turning it over to the states is a panacea either. Who cares who collects and distributes your taxes, the money is still going away?
 
Conservative said:
Only for Medicaid as that is a joint program. We aren't talking Medicaid, we are talking Obamacare
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The government doesn't pay out for medicaid either, which is a huge problem and why a lot of doctors are simply refusing to take medicare and medicaid patients. The government doesn't pay. Why should we think they're going to pay for Obamacare either?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, I understand why it is that you stay away from trying to express your views in your own words and instead rely on C&P.

If the GOP tries to overturn the ACA, it will play right into the Dems hands. Just wait and see what happens if the SC rules in favor of King.
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Seems like some of my viewpoint comes from the type of questions you avoided.

Yeah yeah.....I heard it all before. Note the majority of Incumbent politicians that were running for the New Republicans.....won!
 
Conservative said:
Right, vote for the liberals and their one size fits all programs so Federal tax dollars can be used for state and local uses especially for the Democrat base
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If the ACA, a conservative idea of subsidized private insurance, is "one size fits all", there is not much point in continuing any debate with someone who can't get any basic fact correct.
 
MMC said:
Seems like some of my viewpoint comes from the type of questions you avoided.

Yeah yeah.....I heard it all before. Note the majority of Incumbent politicians that were running for the New Republicans.....won!
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I'm sorry, can you in any manner relate this to the idea that the overturning of the ACA will be a winning platform for the GOP in 2016?
 
Conservative said:
Only for Medicaid as that is a joint program. We aren't talking Medicaid, we are talking Obamacare
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FFS!!!

If you are talking about the ACA....you are not talking about UNINSURED. If they have an ACA policy....THEY ARE INSURED.

Good grief.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I'm sorry, can you in any manner relate this to the idea that the overturning of the ACA will be a winning platform for the GOP in 2016?
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What part didn't you get on these politicians running on Repealing BO's special package? Or the part about Hillary who will be looking to avoid talking about it. :lol:
 
MMC said:
What part didn't you get on these politicians running on Repealing BO's special package? Or the part about Hillary who will be looking to avoid talking about it. :lol:
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Again, if you think that as more folks sign-up into the ACA and have coverage...and that the real actions of trying to take that away.....is going to sell in 2016...you go right ahead and play that tune over the next 2 years. It won't sell and the tell will be the King decision.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, I understand why it is that you stay away from trying to express your views in your own words and instead rely on C&P.

If the GOP tries to overturn the ACA, it will play right into the Dems hands. Just wait and see what happens if the SC rules in favor of King.
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So despite the Dems lying, and calling their supporters stupid, you would still vote for them?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, if you think that as more folks sign-up into the ACA and have coverage...and that the real actions of trying to take that away.....is going to sell in 2016...you go right ahead and play that tune over the next 2 years. It won't sell and the tell will be the King decision.
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Kill the ACA and the economy will rebound immediately.

Obama could use that to build some BS narrative about the success if his economic policies.
 
Grant said:
So despite the Dems lying, and calling their supporters stupid, you would still vote for them?
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Hell yes Gimme would.
 
Fenton said:
Kill the ACA and the economy will rebound immediately.

Obama could use that to build some BS narrative about the success if his economic policies.
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It is always good to see you presenting macro models to support your claims.

Well done.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, if you think that as more folks sign-up into the ACA and have coverage...and that the real actions of trying to take that away.....is going to sell in 2016...you go right ahead and play that tune over the next 2 years. It won't sell and the tell will be the King decision.
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Where are you getting the idea that more are signing up? Now more and more young people are opting out to pay the fine. More are losing coverage.....and more are paying costs that are to high.

Just like with these Polls that were out and skewered showing the Democrats had things close, and was proven false. It will be the same over BO care. Hillary will run away from BO care and all know it. She can't get caught up even debating it.

The Demos lost the War on Women and truthfully everything they ran on is old hat.
 
MMC said:
Where are you getting the idea that more are signing up? Now more and more young people are opting out to pay the fine. More are losing coverage.....and more are paying costs that are to high.

Just like with these Polls that were out and skewered showing the Democrats had things close, and was proven false. It will be the same over BO care. Hillary will run away from BO care and all know it. She can't get caught up even debating it.

The Demos lost the War on Women and truthfully everything they ran on is old hat.
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Did you see that the HHS just lowered the estimate that the CBO had for signups in year 2? The CBO estimated 13 million. HHS said it will be 9.1 million. Currently there are 7 million.

Weren't there something like 50 million or so without insurance? And we're cheering about 7 million?
 
Fenton said:
Kill the ACA and the economy will rebound immediately.

Obama could use that to build some BS narrative about the success if his economic policies.
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Er... the economy IS rebounding already. You must have missed the memo.
 
tres borrachos said:
Cute, but a blogger isn't HHS. You may want to do some research. Sylvia Burwell says there are 7.1 million. PS, she's the Secretary of HHS, just so you know.
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I see no link, and I also see you are ignoring new medicaid/chips enrollment.

Also, I see no link to the "CBO enrollment" numbers.
 
Captain America said:
Er... the economy IS rebounding already. You must have missed the memo.
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Oh yes of-course it is

Ignore the record low labor participation rate and the fact that allot of new jobs are part time, ignore the fact that median income levels have been flat for 6 years and still haven't returned to 2007 levels, ignore the huge drop in new home purchaes, the increase in poverty rates and the shrinking Middle class and yes, I guess you could call that a " rebound ".

If its such a " strong recovery then why are interest rates STILL so low ?

Sorry, I'm not gullible enough to believe we're in the midst of a recovery.

Ill leave that kind of blind allegiance to the Obama supporters.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The Graphs | ACASignups.net
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'HHS Has Lost Their Minds': Obama Administration Nixes Reports That Track Sustainability Of ACA Exchanges

According to Politico [$], the Obama administration will stop issuing monthly reports on enrollment in ObamaCare’s health insurance Exchanges. “Without regular reports,” Politico health care reporter Kyle Cheney writes, “it will be more difficult to gauge the trajectory of enrollment during critical months leading up to the 2014 elections. It’s also unclear as of now whether monthly reports will resume during the next enrollment period, which begins in November.” Charles Gaba of ACASignUps.net calls the decision “a bad move” and “a huge mistake”:

“I don’t know if this only means that they’re mothballing the reports from now through November (when the 2nd open enrollment period starts up again), which would be bad enough, or if they mean permanently (which would be far worse)…HHS has lost their mind and will deserve every bit of criticism that they receive over it.....snip~

'HHS Has Lost Their Minds': Obama Administration Nixes Reports That Track Sustainability Of ACA Exchanges - Forbes
 
tres borrachos said:
Cute, but a blogger isn't HHS. You may want to do some research. Sylvia Burwell says there are 7.1 million. PS, she's the Secretary of HHS, just so you know.
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Specifically, HHS Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell said she projects around 9.1 million people will be enrolled in plans sold through the ACA's exchanges by the end of 2015 (Morgan, Reuters, 11/10).
Why the HHS Projection Is Lower Than CBO's
According to the Times, the administration's enrollment estimate could be part of federal officials' attempts to curb expectations about enrollment. Further, officials could recognize it might be difficult to enroll many individuals who remain uninsured while also working to re-enroll those who purchased ACA coverage last year (New York Times, 11/10).

http://www.californiahealthline.org...eils-more-modest-2015-aca-enrollment-estimate
 
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