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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It is a scandal, and a real one. But except for TDS who happens to agree with Gruber that he's stupid, none of the leftists seem the least bit bothered by this.
    Are you surprised? Was anyone on the right upset when they found out the Bush regime lied about WMDs in Iraq and a connection between Hussein and Al Qaeda? Were people on the left up in arms when Clinton blatantly lied about his affair with Monica? When G.H. bush blatantly lied about taxes, did that stop any conservative from voting for a Republican in the next election? When Reagan lied about Iran, were conservatives "bothered"? Of course not. The majority of this country is only about partisan politics, and the support whoever they voted for, and the party their in, regardless of what the politicians do.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Notice how he didnt say "stupid people supported it" he said they took advantage of stupid people to get it passed.
    The " idiot voters " that is.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    TX is a state that promotes personal responsibility and millions are moving here. It is a leader in the nation in job creation and is the home to 52 Fortune 500 Companies. It's low cost of living has set the standards that apparently you don't like. You have a choice, don't move to TX
    I don't plan to, that is not the issue, the issue still is why your state has double the rate of uninsured children as most other states.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Texas is number one in illegal aliens, too. Let's get a handle on illegal immigration and your insured numbers will look better, too.
    Con says the issue is with those who are eligible.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    All true but to me the pièce de résistance is what he said about subsidies which should kill the whole damn thing.

    Q: The health information exchanges for the states and it’s my understanding that if states don’t provide them that the federal government will provide them.

    Gruber: Yeah, so these health insurance exchanges…will be these new shopping places and they’ll be the place that people go to get their subsidies for health insurance. In the law it says if the states don’t provide them then the federal backstop will. The federal government has been sort of slow in putting out its backstop I think partly because they want to sort of squeeze the states to do it. I think what’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits. But your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying to your citizens, you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country.

    I hope that that’s a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges and that they’ll do it, but you know once again the politics can get ugly around this.


    Gruber: States Without Exchanges Will Get No Subsidies | Sweetness & Light
    Hey, paying taxes is patriotic, according to the Vice Simpleton. So, the citizens are paying taxes for everyone. And the young people are being gouged on purpose. No biggie.



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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leeburte View Post
    Are you surprised? Was anyone on the right upset when they found out the Bush regime lied about WMDs in Iraq and a connection between Hussein and Al Qaeda? Were people on the left up in arms when Clinton blatantly lied about his affair with Monica? When G.H. bush blatantly lied about taxes, did that stop any conservative from voting for a Republican in the next election? When Reagan lied about Iran, were conservatives "bothered"? Of course not. The majority of this country is only about partisan politics, and the support whoever they voted for, and the party their in, regardless of what the politicians do.

    No one " lied " about WMDs.

    That's just a stale Liberal talking point its been debunked over and over on this very site.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Notice how he said they relied on the stupidity of voters to get it passed?
    Yup.

    The people who opposed it didn't want it passed.
    Does that make them smart? Afterall this was the group of people who opposed it:



    Got some smart ones there!

    You did, I gather. If so, he was counting on your stupidity.

    Embrace the horror.
    Death panels!!! Socialism!!! AHHHH!!


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What in the name of God are you babbling about? Who said anything about anyone being gay? I think you stepped into the wrong thread, son.
    Oh, OK, you never did that....amnesia.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Socialism requires authoritarianism.
    Nope no it does not.

    That you and other leftists cling to the fairy tale that socialism can be achieved without an authoritarian state is beyond naïve.
    It is? Why is bringing socialism through a democratic system naive?


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leeburte View Post
    Are you surprised? Was anyone on the right upset when they found out the Bush regime lied about WMDs in Iraq and a connection between Hussein and Al Qaeda? Were people on the left up in arms when Clinton blatantly lied about his affair with Monica? When G.H. bush blatantly lied about taxes, did that stop any conservative from voting for a Republican in the next election? When Reagan lied about Iran, were conservatives "bothered"? Of course not. The majority of this country is only about partisan politics, and the support whoever they voted for, and the party their in, regardless of what the politicians do.
    Hello, can you maybe start a thread about Bush, WMDs, Hussein, Al Qaeda, Clinton, Monica, HW Bush, Reagan and Iran? This thread isn't about them and I'm not interested in discussing them here. Thanks!
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