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Stupidity of the American Voter?

Grant said:
Why mention "Black"? Are you one of those who believes anyone who opposes Obama's policies is 'racist'?
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no just most republican voters in 2008-2012
 
chromium said:
As if the repubs were *ever* going to work with the 1st black president. No way in hell that was gonna happen, and don't pretend the senate has had a higher approval rate than bubonic plague during obama's presidency. What is he supposed to learn from 2012 either like you claim, when he was *reelected*? How is that a message of discontent?
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Are you saying that if Obama was white--all white--Republicans would support his ideas 100%?
 
apdst said:
Are you saying that if Obama was white--all white--Republicans would support his ideas 100%?
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Of course not. I'm saying that the fact he was black was a complete roadblock to many republicans in office even considering working with him to pass legislation, barring a national tragedy like the "patriot act" after 9/11. Just because obama was immensely popular nationally doesn't mean arkansas republican voters were willing to accept a black president. There was at least one state where he did even worse than Kerry '04, which is hard to explain except for racism.

If you want to assign blame for nothing worthwhile getting done, i would look to lieberman types in the senate and the republicans. Point of fact, they *were* his enemies. May as well declare them such.
 
chromium said:
Of course not. I'm saying that the fact he was black was a complete roadblock to many republicans in office even considering working with him to pass legislation, barring a national tragedy like the "patriot act" after 9/11. Just because obama was immensely popular nationally doesn't mean arkansas republican voters were willing to accept a black president. There was at least one state where he did even worse than Kerry '04, which is hard to explain except for racism.

If you want to assign blame for nothing worthwhile getting done, i would look to lieberman types in the senate and the republicans. Point of fact, they *were* his enemies. May as well declare them such.
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You're a 'conservative', are you Chromium? Do you identify at all with these racist Republicans?
 
chromium said:
As if the repubs were *ever* going to work with the 1st black president. No way in hell that was gonna happen, and don't pretend the senate has had a higher approval rate than bubonic plague during obama's presidency. What is he supposed to learn from 2012 either like you claim, when he was *reelected*? How is that a message of discontent?
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You know that how? Without anyone in the socialist camp ever having asked or provided an atmosphere for discussion you can verify that a majority of Republicans are so racist they objected to Obama's polices, that there is no chance whatsoever those policies are garbage, trash that the "stupid American voter" has said they don't want.

Right. Sigh....It's way beyond time for the Democratic Party to stop playing the race card. It is cheap and demeaning and a vapid, lame and empty excuse. You were first to go into hysterics shouting "racism" at the first criticisms....from within your own party in fact, as in Hillary the defender of sexual predators.

And it is long over-due for all of you to stop blaming everyone else in the universe for Obama's constant incompetence, from "I inherited this mess", to "It's Bush's Fault" to "racism, racism, racism" from the most racist camp in America. You had a full majority for two years and squandered it, creating Obama's "enemies" by heavy handed tactics and dishonoring those who people have elected to speak for them; it was not the Republicans setting their hair on fire and arrogantly suppressed free speech with the clever "nuclear option", for which we are destined to hear bleating and protest from a once respected White House, as the Republicans rightly engage in some social engineering called "pay back".

And whine you will, praying, no not atheists, hoping then that the "stupid voters" will have forgotten that the nuke option was the brainchild of a petty, frightened little bully from the most corrupt state in America who likes to be called "Smashmouth"

Oh yeah, that's all the republicans fault, and that's your story and you're sticking to it......

The world knows better and is kind of laughing, well actually guffawing quite avidly.....
 
chromium said:
no just most republican voters in 2008-2012
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Where they " racist " because they supposedly hated black people or where they " racist " because the Democrats needed a excuse for Obama's failed policies not working out ?

Remember, when the Liberals are playing the race card their specifically talking to the idiot voters, because no one else takes their ridiculous narratives seriously anymore.
 
Fearandloathing said:
You know that how? Without anyone in the socialist camp ever having asked or provided an atmosphere for discussion you can verify that a majority of Republicans are so racist they objected to Obama's polices, that there is no chance whatsoever those policies are garbage, trash that the "stupid American voter" has said they don't want.

Right. Sigh....It's way beyond time for the Democratic Party to stop playing the race card. It is cheap and demeaning and a vapid, lame and empty excuse. You were first to go into hysterics shouting "racism" at the first criticisms....from within your own party in fact, as in Hillary the defender of sexual predators.

And it is long over-due for all of you to stop blaming everyone else in the universe for Obama's constant incompetence, from "I inherited this mess", to "It's Bush's Fault" to "racism, racism, racism" from the most racist camp in America. You had a full majority for two years and squandered it, creating Obama's "enemies" by heavy handed tactics and dishonoring those who people have elected to speak for them; it was not the Republicans setting their hair on fire and arrogantly suppressed free speech with the clever "nuclear option", for which we are destined to hear bleating and protest from a once respected White House, as the Republicans rightly engage in some social engineering called "pay back".

And whine you will, praying, no not atheists, hoping then that the "stupid voters" will have forgotten that the nuke option was the brainchild of a petty, frightened little bully from the most corrupt state in America who likes to be called "Smashmouth"

Oh yeah, that's all the republicans fault, and that's your story and you're sticking to it......

The world knows better and is kind of laughing, well actually guffawing quite avidly.....
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Before this year, who was the last black Repub Senator. How many black Repub governors?

I'm not saying anything about "racist Republicans," but with nobody in the jobs that lead to President, it's unlikely that they would have one before the Dems. Unless Powell or Rice had run, and they don't seem interested. Shame, because either of them would be a great Pres.
 
rocket88 said:
Before this year, who was the last black Repub Senator. How many black Repub governors?

I'm not saying anything about "racist Republicans," but with nobody in the jobs that lead to President, it's unlikely that they would have one before the Dems. Unless Powell or Rice had run, and they don't seem interested. Shame, because either of them would be a great Pres.
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You just accused the entire Republican caucus of being so bigoted they refused tom work with Obama because he was black.

So what Republicans haven't been successful with blacks, when was the last time the Democrats elected a black president.

never give up making excuses and arguing red herrings, you would not be a Democrat otherwise
 
rocket88 said:
Before this year, who was the last black Repub Senator. How many black Repub governors?

I'm not saying anything about "racist Republicans," but with nobody in the jobs that lead to President, it's unlikely that they would have one before the Dems. Unless Powell or Rice had run, and they don't seem interested. Shame, because either of them would be a great Pres.
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Indeed. Either one of them would have been a great president, and far more qualified than Obama, and far more capable leaders they.

But I think that both of them had had enough of the DC political infighting, backstabbing and '**** your buddy' games that are the de rigueur of high elected office these days. So much so that I doubt that they'll stain their exemplary service with a presidential run.
 
Conservative said:
Our Founders created a part time Congress and forced the Congressional Representatives to go home and live under the laws they created. That means states' rights were prevalent and not the massive central govt we have today. I would have thought that basic civics and history would have told you that. The country was built on personal responsibility and risk taking. Healthcare is a personal responsibility.
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Nothing you just said says anything about what the Founding Fathers would think about health care.
 
whysoserious said:
Nothing you just said says anything about what the Founding Fathers would think about health care.
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You really don't understand personal responsibility and a limited central govt. do you? You think it is the Federal Government's responsibility to handle social issues? It doesn't appear that you have any understanding as to the role of the Federal Govt. A good civics and history class would help you
 
Conservative said:
You really don't understand personal responsibility and a limited central govt. do you? You think it is the Federal Government's responsibility to handle social issues? It doesn't appear that you have any understanding as to the role of the Federal Govt. A good civics and history class would help you
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Explain how"A good civics and history class"would help clarify heath-care?:2wave:
 
Grant said:
You're a 'conservative', are you Chromium? Do you identify at all with these racist Republicans?
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Let me guess, you conflate democrat with liberal too

Republicans aren't necessarily racist, but if you're a racist, you're probably republican. That should be damn obvious. They've earned that distinction over the decades.
 
chromium said:
Let me guess, you conflate democrat with liberal too

Republicans aren't necessarily racist, but if you're a racist, you're probably republican. That should be damn obvious. They've earned that distinction over the decades.
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Seriously ? Wow thats a ignorant statement.

It was the Democrat Party that filibustered the 1964 voting rights act.

They were the party behind Jim Crowe. Begind segregation.

Behind the creation of the KKK.
 
Fenton said:
Seriously ? Wow thats a ignorant statement.

It was the Democrat Party that filibustered the 1964 voting rights act.

They were the party behind Jim Crowe. Begind segregation.

Behind the creation of the KKK.
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dude does this look like 1964? Yeah i know, dems stood in the way of 13th amendment way back in the civil war. Look on a voting demographic map sometime and you'll notice the deep south is always red. Next you'll say the republican party has never been anti gay either.
 
chromium said:
dude does this look like 1964? Yeah i know, dems stood in the way of 13th amendment way back in the civil war. Look on a voting demographic map sometime and you'll notice the deep south is always red. Next you'll say the republican party has never been anti gay either.
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Wait a minute, you said there was " decades " of proof that Republicans were " racist ".

You seem to be all too willing to ignore the DECADES of proof that the Democrats are a bunch of racist

Anyway, let me guess, your'e " conflating " 1964 Democrat to 2014 Democrats

There's not much of a distinction really.

I mean if you knew ANYTHING about the HISTORY of the Democrat or Republican parties you would already know this

Modern day Democrats still want to control the minorities although its through destructive policies and ALLOT of lies and false promises.

Historically Democrat controlled areas of the US have proven this over " decades " of insidious policies to guarantee votes.

Detroit anybody ? Chicago ?
 
Conservative said:
Really? You think Fortune 500 employ illegals? You think Fortune 500 companies pay low wages? You really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. What is happening in TX is millions have moved here in the last decade and apparently liberal arrogance says they moved here for low wages, no insurance, poor environmental record, and poor education for their kids? Do you realize that Gruber was talking about liberals when he was talking about stupidity?
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Yes, down the line they do. Walmart, for example, is a fortune 500 company. Want me to show you them getting in trouble using illegals?

How many Fortune 500 companies pad their profits by hiring illegal aliens?
Examiner ^ | January 5th, 2011 3 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 1/5/2011, 2:04:06 PM by moonshinner_09

The following is a short list of U.S. companies caught with illegal aliens in their employ:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2652028/posts
 
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Donc said:
Explain how"A good civics and history class"would help clarify heath-care?:2wave:
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It might explain how this country was built, on personal responsibility. Tell me that Healthcare isn't a personal responsibility issue?
 
Fenton said:
Seriously ? Wow thats a ignorant statement.

It was the Democrat Party that filibustered the 1964 voting rights act.

They were the party behind Jim Crowe. Begind segregation.

Behind the creation of the KKK.
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Thank you, wonder how many Democrats call Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson racist? Wonder how many Black Panther's are Republicans
 
Boo Radley said:
Yes, down the line they do. Walmart, for example, is a fortune 500 company. Want me to show you them getting in trouble using illegals?

How many Fortune 500 companies pad their profits by hiring illegal aliens?
Examiner ^ | January 5th, 2011 3 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 1/5/2011, 2:04:06 PM by moonshinner_09

The following is a short list of U.S. companies caught with illegal aliens in their employ:
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Sorry but that proves absolutely nothing and just goes to show how little you really know about Wal-Mart but have no problem buying what you are told. Wal-Mart does not pay minimum wage and promotes from within. There are more hourly employees promoted into Management positions with Wal-Mart than any other company in the business world today. Reality just isn't something you want to believe

Reality is that every company you listed aren't operating company stores but rather are franchised operations. You want to judge franchised operations like you judge company owned operations. Just another subject you know nothing about
 
Conservative said:
Sorry but that proves absolutely nothing and just goes to show how little you really know about Wal-Mart but have no problem buying what you are told. Wal-Mart does not pay minimum wage and promotes from within. There are more hourly employees promoted into Management positions with Wal-Mart than any other company in the business world today. Reality just isn't something you want to believe
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Only if you put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and go "nananananana." But, if you think and read, you'll see and know.
 
Conservative said:
It might explain how this country was built, on personal responsibility. Tell me that Healthcare isn't a personal responsibility issue?
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SOoo...you gazed in the ole crystal ball and seen that congress’s power to regulate interstate commerce has been diminished for health- care eh?Good to know.:2wave:
 
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