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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What part did you miss from Forbes wherein it states if Democrats had been honest? Was there some confusion about this?
    I miss the part which this article is misquoting him on..


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Simple. Political gain. This is politics afterall.
    Are you defending an outright lie by the president of the United States as nothing more than politics?? I guess that means that Bush's supposed lies about WMD's were cool in your book too, eh?

    This is an important lesson for all non-liberals out there--lying, to the left, is necessary and essential if it means advancing its own political aims. Don't think they would lie about global warming because Americans are too stupid to know what is good for them? Think again.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Are you defending an outright lie by the president of the United States as nothing more than politics?? I guess that means that Bush's supposed lies about WMD's were cool in your book too, eh?
    Am I defending lies? No. Obama did lie about the "if you like your doctor you can keep it". But this example is a misquote.

    This is an important lesson for all non-liberals out there--lying, to the left, is necessary and essential if it means advancing its own political aims. Don't think they would lie about global warming because Americans are too stupid to know what is good for them? Think again.
    Conspiracy! I think so!


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Am I defending lies? No. Obama did lie about the "if you like your doctor you can keep it". But this example is a misquote.
    How is this guy being misquoted? He was on air today apologizing for what he said. Yet here you are defending it.


    Conspiracy! I think so!
    Liberals don't conspire to tells lies, they understand it is necessary to lie to get what they want. Obamacare is exhibit A.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    How is this guy being misquoted? He was on air today apologizing for what he said. Yet here you are defending it.
    He no where said "we lied"



    Liberals don't conspire to tells lies, they understand it is necessary to lie to get what they want. Obamacare is exhibit A.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I miss the part which this article is misquoting him on..
    How can you miss it, when those in the Media already have pointed out about the honesty and what was the truth. Playing with terminology such as the word transparency to use in the place of the lay-mans term.....lying. Doesn't change the reality from what it is.

    Its clear if he would have been asked.....so basically you lied and thats why you weren't transparent about the Cost or the Penalty being a Tax. He would have had to answer yes. As the revelation was already out in the open.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    He no where said "we lied"
    He said specifically that aspects of the bill were misrepresented to get it passed. That's lying dude. You agree with the outcome so you defend the lie. That fits exactly into what I said about liberals in my very first post. Not only will liberals lie to get what they want, the will continue to lie even when caught. That is pretty sad.




    You caught em! Scientists in cahoots withe green energy to make profits for green energy companies!
    That's not what it is about at all. But I don't expect you to be honest about this any more than I would about anything else.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    He said specifically that aspects of the bill were misrepresented to get it passed. That's lying dude. You agree with the outcome so you defend the lie. That fits exactly into what I said about liberals in my very first post. Not only will liberals lie to get what they want, the will continue to lie even when caught. That is pretty sad.




    That's not what it is about at all. But I don't expect you to be honest about this any more than I would about anything else.
    More disturbing is the complete lack of outrage from some about lying, misrepresenting, the con, to get a piece of legislation, a legislation with huge impact on every man woman and child, passed.

    So lying of this magnitude, not just a little white lie, not a little lie to save someone's feeling, a big massive self-serving lie, by our political leaders is suddenly acceptable? Or is it acceptable only when it advances the liberal / progressive / Democrats agenda?

    No one likes to be called stupid.
    No one likes to be lied to.

    This may very well hang around the 2016 Democrat candidate's necks like a millstone, and frankly, it should.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .


    Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..
    We weren't told the truth. When you don't tell the truth, you're what? Lying, that's what.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    And then they argue before the SCOTUS that the fees are not fees, but taxes.
    Those bastards don't know what lie to tell, nor when to tell it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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