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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which ones were true and which were false?
    You know what a provision is right?


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Didnt see anything at the 37 mark. Something about transparency. Just because its not fully transparent does not mean its lying..
    Well, the Bottomline was what BO was telling the American People, it was not a Tax. Yet here is Gruber telling us that's what it was all along.

    What did he say they told the CBO and why?


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”
    And then they argue before the SCOTUS that the fees are not fees, but taxes.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He admits that the objective was to deceive the people. Deception = a lie.
    No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .

    "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan...period".
    Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Didnt see anything at the 37 mark. Something about transparency. Just because its not fully transparent does not mean its lying..
    Wow! Were you one of Gruber's pupils??

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .


    Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..

    In the video, Gruber points out that if Democrats had been honest about these facts, and that the law’s individual mandate is in effect a major tax hike, Obamacare would never have passed Congress.

    Gruber also points out that Obamacare’s individual mandate—the provision that requires most Americans to buy government-approved insurance, or pay a fine—was described in the law as a “penalty” instead of as a “tax” in order to hide the mandate’s effects. “I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the [individual] mandate as taxes,” said Gruber. “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so [the law is] written to do that.”.....snip~

    ACA Architect: 'The Stupidity Of The American Voter' Led Us To Hide Obamacare's True Costs From The Public - Forbes

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No no no. "To score the mandate as a tax", which they (the CBO) did not .


    Last time I checked Gruber didnt say that..

    The law and its provisions were misrepresented purposefully so that the " idiot voters " wouldn't oppose it based on its actual content.

    We had to be lied to because we were too stupid to know how great this law was.

    There's no defense for that. There's no way to tie a bow around that and call it something else.

    Just add to a the long list of the Obama administrations " F*** You's " to the American people.

    Its part of his already severely tarnished legacy now for all to see.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, the Bottomline was what BO was telling the American People, it was not a Tax. Yet here is Gruber telling us that's what it was all along.
    That is correct "BO" did say that. Gruber did no say that.


    What did he say they told the CBO and why?

    Simple. Political gain. This is politics afterall.


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Wow! Were you one of Gruber's pupils??
    No. I didnt go to MIT. Went to KSU.


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    That is correct "BO" did say that. Gruber did no say that.



    Simple. Political gain. This is politics afterall.

    What part did you miss from Forbes wherein it states if Democrats had been honest? Was there some confusion about this?

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