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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If you've been watching the news for the past day or two, you've seen it. Or I guess that just depends on which cable news network you watch. I wouldn't be at all surprised if one or two of them ignore the story altogether.
    What minute mark? Where did he state it?


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If you've been watching the news for the past day or two, you've seen it. Or I guess that just depends on which cable news network you watch. I wouldn't be at all surprised if one or two of them ignore the story altogether.
    Sadly, what you say is likely to be true. Networks Ignore Video of ObamaCare Architect Crediting Law

    ABC carried this story a while back on Gruber. On Jonathan Gruber and Disclosure - ABC News

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This isnt about that remark. Its about the "lie" remark. Where did he say it?
    “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    All of them? No. Not even close to all of them.
    Which ones were true and which were false?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What minute mark? Where did he state it?


    Here ya go TDS.....try at the 37 second mark concerning the stupidity remark.


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”
    Still not saying anything about lying...


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here ya go TDS.....try at the 37 second mark.

    Didnt see anything at the 37 mark. Something about transparency. Just because its not fully transparent does not mean its lying..


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Still not saying anything about lying...
    He admits that the objective was to deceive the people. Deception = a lie.

    "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan...period".
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This isnt about that remark. Its about the "lie" remark. Where did he say it?
    Here are some of his comments.
    You get a law which said healthy people are going to pay in, it made explicit that healthy people pay and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Ok? Just the cal – people transparent – lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical to get this thing to pass.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Liberal fatigue.
    I wouldn't go that far. This last election was more a referendum on Obama than ideology, at least in my opinion. ABC's exit polls show 59% of those who voted were dissatisfied with the president to include 23% who were down right angry at him. 32% of those who voted said their vote was against Obama while only 20% said their vote was in support of Obama. Let's face it, the Republicans nationalized the election and for the most part ran against Obama. It is not that the Republicans put forth an agenda of their own like they did with the contract with America. They said if you are tired of Obama, vote for me.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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