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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Your choice. But my house has gone up in value, my mutual funds have rebounded and exceeding my own expectations. The job I lost during the Bush era has been replaced with even a better job that pays me more money. If things have gone south for you, I'm sorry. But I got mine.
    Of-course your mutual funds have gone up, so has my 401k.

    But I'm a realist and understand the huge amount of influence that the Feds QE has had on the equities markets.

    I realize that the markets are over valued and I'm not counting my chickens just yet.

    Corporations have chosen to spend upwards of 40 percent of their profits on repurchasing their excess over valued shares rather than use that profit to expand in a way that would create jobs.

    Its not because they're greedy, or " mean " or they hate Obama.

    Its because they don't want to risk their principle in a economy thats been on life support for the last 6 years.

    In a economy thats stagnant, creating part time positions WITH interest rates down to nothing.

    Its a objective indicator of the TRUE health of the US economy.

    Another objective indicator is the massive amount of Excess reserves sitting on the FEDs balance sheets.

    Over 80 percent of all that new liquidity created by the FED sits idle.

    That means QE didn't do what it was supposed to do and banks would rather earn .25 percent on their record reserves than risk their principle in Obama's economy.

    Corporations and Investors are sitting on their wealth, hoarding it offshore and NOT pushing it back into the economy. Again not because they're big " meanies ".

    Its STILL too much of a risk 6 years in.

    So I'm not impressed by the lefts empty claims of a economic recovery. They LIE.

    ALL THE TIME.

    Dishonesty is a defining characteristic of their ideology.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Your choice. But my house has gone up in value, my mutual funds have rebounded and exceeding my own expectations. The job I lost during the Bush era has been replaced with even a better job that pays me more money. If things have gone south for you, I'm sorry. But I got mine.
    Thank God for Governor Walker, right?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    First, I don't buy into the whole " Corporate Greed " false narrative. People blame them for everything from the 2008 Subprime mortgage crisis to or stagnant economy.

    The reality is the Government has far more influence in the creation of BOTH of those things than Corporations do.

    Next, organizations have had the ability to fund Political candidates for decades .

    Citizens United pissed off Obama NOT because he thinks money should be removed from the election process, but because it officially ended a decades long monopoly held by the Democrats.

    If Unions hold that right, then so should Corporations.

    At least we have a track record to look at for the consequences of funding Political candidates through Unions.

    And its NOT good.

    I can't think of a better way to counter that destruction than allowing Corporations to do the same.
    I don't agree. Corporate money is the bane of politics. If you think corporations should have personhood, than all I can say is you are an idiot. End of story.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Ah, from being "gay" to being a "troll".....and you still can't bring yourself to even begin to fathom the context of the argument.

    Further, so many of the projections were based on states cooperating with federal enrollment. If the states decide to hinder or outright block enrollment of the purchase of insurance by those seeking it, is the administration responsible for that?
    What in the name of God are you babbling about? Who said anything about anyone being gay? I think you stepped into the wrong thread, son.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greeting, Fenton.

    Unfortunately it has worked on a lot of people. As an example, the architect of the ACA called people too stupid to know what's good for them, and that's why there was no transparency, which was his explanation for why it was passed the way it was. Huh? That means that over 100 million people are stupid because they are unhappy with it?

    WHY it continues to work is a mystery to me, only because the facts seem to change from week to week - how do the believers know when to change their thinking from A to B, so they can continue to believe what they're told on any given day? No core beliefs of their own? Scary! Most people don't like to be lied to on a personal basis, yet they accept it from government - who just change the words used in order to sell the latest round of what passes for "trust us - we know what's best for you," and then when people complain, they're told in exasperation to "get over it" :

    Heya Lady P. Only word that needs to keep going round is.....BO lied and committed Fraud upon the People. Scammed the Government. All the way until 2016.....and anytime Democrats even think about feeling their Wheaties.


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The more that Americans learn about the Liberals, the less likely that becomes.
    Interesting. Saying several "liberal ideas" passed by popular referendum this election cycle; raising the wage, legalization of marijuana....


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Interesting. Saying several "liberal ideas" passed by popular referendum this election cycle; raising the wage, legalization of marijuana....
    Ya think Democrats should brag about Obamacare on the campaign trail, in the future?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Interesting. Saying several "liberal ideas" passed by popular referendum this election cycle; raising the wage, legalization of marijuana....
    Which goes to show that things can happen and should happen in the states, not at the Federal Level. There is no reason for a national minimum wage when the states can raise the wage to make it more in tune with the state economy and cost of living

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ya think Democrats should brag about Obamacare on the campaign trail, in the future?
    Yes I do, especially when the majority of Americans are told about the key points in the bill they agree with them. Democrats sucked at marketing this issue.


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes I do, especially when the majority of Americans are told about the key points in the bill they agree with them. Democrats sucked at marketing this issue.
    So, you think Democrats should amplify the fact that the Democrats in Congress and The White House lied like dogs, just to get the bill passed?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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