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Stupidity of the American Voter?

I noticed that too. Everyone is strangely silent on the matter. Maybe they're hunkered down in the hallowed halls of Congress plotting their strategy.

Sorry, pero, but I think the Democratic politicians thought the voters were stupid long before last Tuesday.

I am not sure about stupid. But a lot of the leaders of the Democratic Party think the voters are there to be manipulated. Maybe that is the same thing, maybe not
 
Ah.....so nothing to do with the GOP, like you had stated. Okay, that's cleared up.

Oh, you can't read. I said that GOP guvs were choosing not to set up state exchanges.....and you bring up 2 state exchanges where those guvs DID in fact try to setup exchanges...where the private contractors failed to do what they were hired to do.....and you think that applies to the context I was speaking about.

FFS...again, stick to C&P, when you go out on a limb and start making argument without the crutch, you fall down REALLY hard.
 
Oh....it is past "lies" during the passage that has caused GOP guvs to not setup state exchanges.

Can you document that?


The Obama administration and the laws architect could only exploit the ignorance of their supporters.

Conservatives knew they were selling that disaster of a law by lying to the American people.

Liberals Lie but that's nothing new.

Conservative Governors were NOT Obama supporters amd no reason to trust the Federal government.
 
The Obama administration and the laws architect could only exploit the ignorance of their supporters.

Conservatives knew they were selling that disaster of a law by lying to the American people.

Liberals Lie but that's nothing new.

Conservative Governors were NOT Obama supporters amd no reason to trust the Federal government.
I asked for documentation to support your argument, you have nothing, ergo, your argument is nothing more than speculation pulled from a body orifice.
 
Oh, you can't read. I said that GOP guvs were choosing not to set up state exchanges.....and you bring up 2 state exchanges where those guvs DID in fact try to setup exchanges...where the private contractors failed to do what they were hired to do.....and you think that applies to the context I was speaking about.

FFS...again, stick to C&P, when you go out on a limb and start making argument without the crutch, you fall down REALLY hard.

Who was in Control of Oregon's and Maryland's State legislation at the time? Who held the Governorships?
 
Who was in Control of Oregon's and Maryland's State legislation at the time? Who held the Governorships?
Oh noes....nows it thinks I says "all gop guvs blocked exchanges"....further proving it can't read.

Faceplant part deux.

Get up and go for 3.
 
Did you hear Howard this morning when talking about Scott Walker wanting to drug test welfare recipients, and he said how this is evidence that the GOP has not only declared a war on women, but a war on poor people too? :lol:

My favorite part of the whole show was when he said that Wall Streeters should also be drug tested because they get tax breaks and that's welfare.

I almost wet my pants.
Dean still thinks he's preaching to "The Stupids". I doubt that tiresome strategy will work much anymore
 
Trey Gowdy Takes on Obamacare Architect For Lying to "Stupid" Americans.....

"I can't get past the irony to get to the arrogance. The most transparent administration since the continent shifted had to rely on artifice and deception to pass its signature piece of legislation, you can't make that up. He had to lie to people and then he justified it so I can't even get past the irony of that to get to the arrogance of him calling our fellow Americans stupid," Gowdy said.

"He just proved that he is willing to lie. He's willing to lie because he has the arrogance of thinking that he knows what is best for this country and the citizens and voters do not, so keep that in mind the next time anybody tries to sell you on a big piece of legislation by calling this comprehensive," Gowdy continued, adding that he'd like to see someone from the administration apologize for what Gruber said. "They lied, they got away with it and they got the bill that they wanted."

During the show, host Megyn Kelly pointed out that the Obama administration presented Gruber as an "honest broker" to the American people when Obamacare was being debated and eventually passed in 2010. She also ran through a list of examples of how many times Gruber visited the White House and his extensive relationship with President Obama as a top advisor and architect of the law......snip~

Trey Gowdy Takes on Obamacare Architect For Lying to "Stupid" Americans - Katie Pavlich



This isn't just going to go away.....and going forward. All associated to BO will be seen as willing to lie to get their way.

As well they should.

The president, his administration, the Democrats in congress, all lied to pass this POS legislation. How can it possibly be that we should trust them now?

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

Consider that going any further in support of Obama, his cronies, his administration and congressional Democrats is fool me third time, or much, much more.

No, this isn't going away. Not in the least. This may very well be the milestone about the 2016 Democrat candidates' collective necks, as well it should be.
 
Thats every presidential election bud.

Yeah, but most other presidential candidates have a bit more behind those empty platitudes and bumper sticker slogans.
Obama didn't and doesn't. Big difference.
 
It absolutely has a lot to do about what we are discussing. It shows that as a population we are pretty goddamn stupid.
It's understandable that you would broaden the net to include all Americans but that won't work. Gruber was pretty clear as to who the Stupids were.
 
And here's the recap.

He no where said "we lied"

So, in your mind, unless he said "We lied", he didn't lie?

You have some very disturbing aspects incorporated into your moral compass and value system, as does anyone else who's mentality is 'the ends justifies the means'. Especially in this case.

I think the real problem are people with this same moral compass and value system. Must . . . Keep . . Them . . Out . . Of . . Congress & White House.
 
Where are you getting the idea that more are signing up? Now more and more young people are opting out to pay the fine. More are losing coverage.....and more are paying costs that are to high.

Just like with these Polls that were out and skewered showing the Democrats had things close, and was proven false. It will be the same over BO care. Hillary will run away from BO care and all know it. She can't get caught up even debating it.

The Demos lost the War on Women and truthfully everything they ran on is old hat.



That's the "talking point" they have to keep hitting, that all these people are signing up...to a mandatory program.

The single most telling number for me, who has lived in a land where EVERYONE gets medical care no matter what, is that when all is said and done, there will still be more 50 million people without any coverage....that happens to be 1.3 times the entire population of Canada. The so-called "greatest nation on earth" and this is what six years of "liberal" Obama leadership provides? We're laughing at you.

You have fixed nothing. You have merely forced people to buy a product from for-profit companies, period often at more expense for less real coverage.

Last week I saw my GP, had three blood tests run [blood sugar etc.] and picked up renewal prescriptions including diabetic test strips totaling $664. I paid nothing and was finished two hours after I set out. My premiums are zero and every person living legally in this country has that available....with that as my minimum standard, I can find nothing redeeming in any way about this batch of bull**** called Obamacare; 1,100 pages of legalese to do nothing by divide the entire country.

In comparison I would say no coverage, no law at all is superior to what Obama has forced you all to do.
 
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Oh noes....nows it thinks I says "all gop guvs blocked exchanges"....further proving it can't read.

Faceplant part deux.

Get up and go for 3.

I noticed how you missed mentioning the state legislatures. But that was to be expected. But then you do believe in what is said about BO's special package.....and as we all know. Gruber's point is being reinforced by all in BO peep's Coalition.

But when talking about Oregon and looking for excuses or trying to make some up along the way. At least try and get them close to reality.





The state initially paid $134 million to Oracle Corp. to build its online exchange. Cover Oregon also spent more than $3 million on marketing the site, which included radio, television and YouTube ads, spokeswoman Ariane Holm told FoxNews.com last year. Cover Oregon received a month-long enrollment deadline extension because of multiple technical glitches in its system. But fixing the existing system, Cover Oregon officials say, would have meant pouring another $78 million into the growing money pit. Switching to the federal system significantly reduces the cost to around $5 million. I guess I am still saying ‘I told you so,’” said former Oregon Rep. Patrick Sheehan on Fox News. “There is a culture of cover up that goes all the way up to the governor’s office.” Sheehan says there were multiple times throughout the year when the state could and should have, in his opinion, opted for less expensive ways to tackle the costs associated with building and sustaining a state exchange.

It is still unclear how the state might be able to recoup its exchange funding -- if at all. Cover Oregon was partially financed by a 2.5 percent premium tax on insurers selling the exchange, Cover Oregon technology chief Alex Petit said Thursday. Oregon’s exchange, which was touted by the Obama administration in the beginning as a success story, quickly proved otherwise. It was widely seen as the worst of more than a dozen states that developed their own online health insurance marketplaces.

An independent investigation ordered by Gov. John Kitzhaber found state managers repeatedly failed to heed reports about technical problems that prevented the exchange from launching. It also found that Oracle did a shoddy job in building the exchange. Four Oregon officials connected to the development of the Cover Oregon portal have resigned......snip~

Cover Oregon officially calls it quits, state to use federal ObamaCare site | Fox News

Just sayin!
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Bringing up gruber, you know what no one has apologized for him calling the voters stupid or no Democrat has come out and said something like that is on him, I do not think this way. But perhaps with last Tuesday in the books, there may be quite a lot of Democrats thinking the voters are stupid.

I don't see any denials either.

Just more of the same moral justifications, as though when it comes to Obama there are different rules.

Critic:"He lied"
Obamalemming "He won didn't he? Romney is a moron!"
Critic: "it was wrong"
Obamalemming: "so what? Bush lied."


So, wasn't this Obama brand supposed to be better than the other brands? Wasn't this brand critical of the brand before?

But it seems he has adopted all the worst of his predecessors [except getting caught getting his knob polished in the Oval Office] and that's OK because Bush, Bush, Reagan, Eisenhower, and Nixon did it too.

That kind of reads to me like the LOWEST common denominator as opposed to what was promised as a highest common denominator.
 
HAHA she got so frustrated with him.

He did say one smart thing. He said Gruber is a "political idiot". Yes he is!
In fact, like the interviewee, he appears to be a well educated fool, who hangs with similar types. Pity they can't teach Wisdom in the educational system.
 
The left seems perfectly content with being called "stupid". The opponents of the ACA weren't the stupid ones Gruber is referring to. :lol: It makes me chuckle that the left doesn't even realize that. Proof positive that they are so blindly partisan that they sit back and accept it. And some are even agreeing with it. Priceless.
Being too stupid to understand that the people you support define you as stupid is almost too pathetic to watch. It seems many have not yet caught on to the obvious! Have their brains been washed that thoroughly?
 
That's the "talking point" they have to keep hitting, that all these people are signing up...to a mandatory program.

The single most telling number for me, who has lived in a land where EVERYONE gets medical care no matter what, is that when all is said and done, there will still be more 50 million people without any coverage....that happens to be 1.3 times the entire population of Canada. The so-called "greatest nation on earth" and this is what six years of "liberal" Obama leadership provides? We're laughing at you.

You have fixed nothing. You have merely forced people to buy a product from for-profit companies, period often at more expense for less real coverage.

Last week I saw my GP, had three blood tests run [blood sugar etc.] and picked up renewal prescriptions including diabetic test strips totaling $664. I paid nothing and was finished two hours after I set out. My premiums are zero and every person living legally in this country has that available....with that as my minimum standard, I can find nothing redeeming in any way about this batch of bull**** called Obamacare; 1,100 pages of legalese to do nothing by divide the entire country.

In comparison I would say no coverage, no law at all is superior to what Obama has forced you all to do.
Of course! Canadians pay NOTHING, NEVER EVER for HC...and all of us in the US is FORCED (I TELL YAH!) into the ACA.

Good grief, what utter ignorance.
 
Being too stupid to understand that the people you support define you as stupid is almost too pathetic to watch. It seems many have not yet caught on to the obvious! Have their brains been washed that thoroughly?

Do you go around saying things like that in public?
 
Bringing up gruber, you know what no one has apologized for him calling the voters stupid or no Democrat has come out and said something like that is on him, I do not think this way. But perhaps with last Tuesday in the books, there may be quite a lot of Democrats thinking the voters are stupid.
They may feel some shame in passing a bill they never even read, if shame even exists anymore. If they don't then they must share in the voters are stupid idea also.
 
Of course! Canadians pay NOTHING, NEVER EVER for HC...and all of us in the US is FORCED (I TELL YAH!) into the ACA.

Good grief, what utter ignorance.


"Ignorance"?

Of what? Your stupid system?

That's jealousy talking. Your idol strutted out all his promises and the ignorant bought it, only to find out 1] you could not keep your plan and 2] at the end more people than live in my country will have NO coverage.

Show me where your Obamacare with it's premiums, bureaucracy, pre-approvals and bull**** is even in the same league as what most of the rest of the industrialized world has. At the end of the day you're still 30th or something, behind Cuba and Canada.

The methods leave more than a little on the table, shouting "ignorant" is actually childish and kind of proves the intent of this thread, the "stupid" bought into this abortion of a law.
 
So there seem to be a lot of speeches by Gruber where he displays his contempt of the American people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AqHz2XcUGok#t=1704

In this video he is explaining how they sold the tax on health insurance by taxing the insurance providers to exploit the ignorance of the voter.

Note also that this idiot thinks his audience is stupid too by selling them on the insane notion that the lack of a tax is actually a tax subsidy.

This would be the third video from this guy.

The thing that gets me is that when Gruber talks about the idiots that were fooled into supporting the PPACA he is mostly talking about Democrats. Only democrats would fall for the "We're punishing evil corporations, not you!" bull crap. The rest of us have never been fooled by this government doublespeak.
 
It works with The Stupids, apparently.

Luckily, not all voters are irredeemably stupid. I'm still confident that once people start paying attention they will do the right thing, and many of the irredeemables will just stay home like they did during the recent election..
 
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