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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    The ACA was modeled upon repuglicon ideas, I'll bet you didn't know that did you?



    Obama health-care law modeled on Romney plan - politics - Decision 2012 | NBC News

    I'm guessing now that cons believe Romoney was a lib? you know, one of them there RINO's?

    But that's still no excuse for cons to be saying naughty things about American voters.

    You mean the plan that wouldn't have worked if Massachusetts hadn't ripped off the American Government for 400. Million dollars a year ?

    And name one GOP Politician that voted for the ACA.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No conservative would have ever voted for Obama, only liberal Republicans who in my opinion aren't much better than Democrats. What you cannot seem to understand is that Obama got 52% of the vote and his JAR is now around 41% meaning he has lost 11% of his support. Why? Keep believing the rhetoric and ignoring the results.
    Oh, what was dubya's jar running @ about the same time in office, how about Raygun and Boosh 41?

    Liburul republicons? now that's a hoot. thanks for my daily laugh.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Let me guess, you have no concept of states' rights and responsibilities? Romneycare is a state issue not a federal issue. One size fits all liberals never have understood individual state cost of living, responsibilities, and demographics. The people of MA supported Romneycare, the people of the Country have spoken on Obamacare
    Let me guess, you have no concept of how the ACA was modeled by your own party.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Let me guess, you have no concept of how the ACA was modeled by your own party.
    you apparently do not understand the difference between state governments and their 10A powers and limits of a federal government which was given enumerated powers



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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The Massachusetts Healthcare Law was two things:

    1. Dreamed up by and pushed through by the 80%+ Democratically controlled legislature in MA, and signed into law by the Governor named Mitt Romney - it wasn't his idea
    2. Intended only for the state of Massachusetts and not the rest of us

    By the way, it did something else too....failed to bring down costs in the state. MA has and continues to have the highest healthcare costs in this country. But, like the ACA, it's a neat old entitlement program.
    Exactly. The point of Federalism is that the states can experiment with their own methods of providing essential government services and the rest of the country can learn from the success and failures of the state experiments. What Obamacare did was essentially take a troubled experiment and applied it to every state.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You mean the plan that wouldn't have worked if Massachusetts hadn't ripped off the American Government for 400. Million dollars a year ?

    And name one GOP Politician that voted for the ACA.
    Probably about the same amount who voted for the Social Security Act of 1935.

    If you remember correctly, The Supreme Court ruling affirmed the constitutionality of the ACA.

    So, basically, it is law, and there isn't anything whining repuglicans can do about it, and it's time to move onto other things, like making improvements to it instead of acting like a bunch of grade school babies running home crying to dad with the football after forfeiting the game.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you apparently do not understand the difference between state governments and their 10A powers and limits of a federal government which was given enumerated powers
    Apparently you dislike anything the SCOTUS rules on.

    ObamaCare Supreme Court Ruling UPHOLDS Health Care Reform
    The decision on the ObamaCare ruling by the Supreme Court on National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius was decided on June 28, 2012. The Supreme Court ObamaCare ruling was a 5-4 ruling to uphold the Affordable Care Act. The final Ruling on ObamaCare had a few implications ranging from ObamaCare being defined as a tax and not a mandate and a choice for States to Opt-Out of Medicaid Expansion.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Apparently you dislike anything the SCOTUS rules on.

    ObamaCare Supreme Court Ruling UPHOLDS Health Care Reform
    The decision on the ObamaCare ruling by the Supreme Court on National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius was decided on June 28, 2012. The Supreme Court ObamaCare ruling was a 5-4 ruling to uphold the Affordable Care Act. The final Ruling on ObamaCare had a few implications ranging from ObamaCare being defined as a tax and not a mandate and a choice for States to Opt-Out of Medicaid Expansion.
    I actually understand the ruling

    the Democrat position of the commerce clause was rejected by five justices. Roberts concurred on the taxation ground-something your exalted leader screamed to high heaven obama care was not



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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Oh, what was dubya's jar running @ about the same time in office, how about Raygun and Boosh 41?

    Liburul republicons? now that's a hoot. thanks for my daily laugh.
    No problem, man, it is hard to change a liberal's mind on any issue even by posting data and facts. All you show is the media is able to spin the message and you buy it. Tell the 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers TODAY how good the Obama economy is? Think they are benefiting from the high stock market? How about the African Americans Obama said he would help and their high unemployment? Keep buying the rhetoric as it makes you look and sound brilliant

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Let me guess, you have no concept of how the ACA was modeled by your own party.
    And do you know the difference between a state program and a federal one size fits all program? Obviously not and obviously Gruber got it right

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