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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, now there sounds like a good bit of advice you yourself should follow.
    By all means present where I've done that.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So your plan is to complain about all politicians because they are all he same. That's great. I'll be looking forward to reading your posts..
    Nope. But it's not my plan to pretend that only one politician or party does it. I prefer to debat actual issues with factual information and not silliness.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Americans ARE stupid if they believe the LIES he told today in a attempt to try and cover up for his honesty.

    He was correct when he said the tax increase on Cadillac plans was sold by telling Americans that it would be on the Insurance industry.

    He was also correct when he said those tax increases would be passed onto the Consumer.

    He was correct when he initially said it was written in a tortured way to manipulate the CBOs scoring and he was correct when he said it was sold on a pack of lies.

    He's not sorry for what he said, he's sorry for getting caught.

    Does his BS testimony now mean that Obama didn't lie about keeping your plan and doctor ?

    Does him covering his ass by lying in front of Congress now mean that our premiums are going to drop by 2500 dollars ?

    I could care less what Gruber thinks about the American voter. He's a Liberal elitist.

    Of-course they think we're all idiots.

    But this is more than just a ObamaCare architect getting caught with his foot in his mouth. This Law is horrible, its a economy killer that removes more and more discretionary income out if the pockets of Mlions of Americans who're already struggling to make ends meet.
    Barrack Obama's contempt for the American public has always been evident and verified again by his following the same line as Gruber (you can keep your doctor, plane, it's cheaper, etc.) and his claim that Americans cling to religion and guns and are frightened of anyone different from themselves. Ironically, he could have been referring to his own supporters.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, conservatives looked at the Obama resume and saw an empty suit. The liberal base listened to the Obama rhetoric and bought it getting exactly what that resume showed, an empty suit. Blacks are worse off today because of Obama and still support him for the color of his skin certainly not for policies that benefited the blacks.
    You've said nothing about repuglicons who voted Obama in 2008, were those black repuglicons that bought it too?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But Gruber was referring to the Obama voters.

    Conservatives knew before the ACA was signed into law that it was being sold on a pack of lies by a Political party that's about as trust worthy as your average Crack addict.

    We knew it wouldn't lower premiums or lower deductibles and that it wouldn't be " deficit neutral "

    We knew we wouldn't be able to " keep our doctors " and we knew this law wouldn't be AFFORDABLE.

    We already knew the Tax Increases would be passed onto the Consumers.

    President Obama started his Presidency by lying to the faces of the people that elected him.

    Those that didn't elect him watched his lies and just pointed out the obvious. That he wasn't a leader, a qualified candidate or even a man with integrity.

    He was a Left wing hack elitist who like Gruber, looked down on the average American citizen.

    Amd he never stopped. He's been piling lie on top of loes trying to cover his tracks.
    The ACA was modeled upon repuglicon ideas, I'll bet you didn't know that did you?

    Newly obtained White House records provide fresh details on how senior Obama administration officials used Mitt Romney’s landmark health-care law in Massachusetts as a model for the new federal law, including recruiting some of Romney’s own health care advisers and experts to help craft the act now derided by Republicans as “Obamacare.”
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    The records, gleaned from White House visitor logs reviewed by NBC News, show that senior White House officials had a dozen meetings in 2009 with three health-care advisers and experts who helped shape the health care reform law signed by Romney in 2006, when the Republican presidential candidate was governor of Massachusetts. One of those meetings, on July 20, 2009, was in the Oval Office and presided over by President Barack Obama, the records show.
    Obama health-care law modeled on Romney plan - politics - Decision 2012 | NBC News

    I'm guessing now that cons believe Romoney was a lib? you know, one of them there RINO's?

    But that's still no excuse for cons to be saying naughty things about American voters.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    By all means present where I've done that.
    You haven't, and probably never will...That' the problem...
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    You've said nothing about repuglicons who voted Obama in 2008, were those black repuglicons that bought it too?
    No conservative would have ever voted for Obama, only liberal Republicans who in my opinion aren't much better than Democrats. What you cannot seem to understand is that Obama got 52% of the vote and his JAR is now around 41% meaning he has lost 11% of his support. Why? Keep believing the rhetoric and ignoring the results.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    The ACA was modeled upon repuglicon ideas, I'll bet you didn't know that did you?



    Obama health-care law modeled on Romney plan - politics - Decision 2012 | NBC News

    I'm guessing now that cons believe Romoney was a lib? you know, one of them there RINO's?

    But that's still no excuse for cons to be saying naughty things about American voters.
    Let me guess, you have no concept of states' rights and responsibilities? Romneycare is a state issue not a federal issue. One size fits all liberals never have understood individual state cost of living, responsibilities, and demographics. The people of MA supported Romneycare, the people of the Country have spoken on Obamacare

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You haven't, and probably never will...That' the problem...
    No, not being a hack who goes all liberals or all conservatives, and exaggerating things is a good thing. So, I'm pleased not to be the one doing that. Now, do we keep this up or is there anything of substance you have?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    The ACA was modeled upon repuglicon ideas, I'll bet you didn't know that did you?



    Obama health-care law modeled on Romney plan - politics - Decision 2012 | NBC News

    I'm guessing now that cons believe Romoney was a lib? you know, one of them there RINO's?

    But that's still no excuse for cons to be saying naughty things about American voters.
    The Massachusetts Healthcare Law was two things:

    1. Dreamed up by and pushed through by the 80%+ Democratically controlled legislature in MA, and signed into law by the Governor named Mitt Romney - it wasn't his idea
    2. Intended only for the state of Massachusetts and not the rest of us

    By the way, it did something else too....failed to bring down costs in the state. MA has and continues to have the highest healthcare costs in this country. But, like the ACA, it's a neat old entitlement program.
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