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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually costs are flat. For about 29% of us they've decreased according to the link I gave you earlier. But as the reform still keeps insurance linked to employment, ACA did not solve this problem. And no one says anyone is obligated to do anything, so yes, that third world worker making next to nothing, not getting health care, working in unsafe working conditions is real appealing, and you want America to look more like them? Really?
    Do I? No...But progressives like you, and Obama seem hell bent on making that a reality.

    The point is that other issue lead to them leaving over taxes, and much of it is a matter of greed over what is best for all. They are free to that, and I have not said they aren't. But they are not to be praised or appeased for not having foresight. In the end, lower wages will hurt them more than help. Remember, someone has to buy the ****.
    Ah yes...Greeeeeeeeed!!!! Tell me Joe, did you leave your job teaching, and go into your own business developing apps for free?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Or debate with honest people...
    I was quite honest. Sorry it bothered you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do I? No...But progressives like you, and Obama seem hell bent on making that a reality.
    No, we're working for safer conditions and healthcare.


    Ah yes...Greeeeeeeeed!!!! Tell me Joe, did you leave your job teaching, and go into your own business developing apps for free?
    I do both. And no one said anything about for free, so don't try that fallacious trick.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I was quite honest. Sorry it bothered you.
    That would be a switch....
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, we're working for safer conditions and healthcare.
    No you're not...That is just the guise you shroud yourself in...but keep telling yourself that, you're the only one buying what you say.

    I do both. And no one said anything about for free, so don't try that fallacious trick.
    oh Please... Ok, so why did you start developing apps? As a son who grew up with a father that built, and ran his own Pharmacy, it takes a literal **** load of work to makes even a single store front work...I saw impossibly long hours, few vacations, and stress. The payoff for that was in making more than the employees he employed. Without that who would go into the gauntlet we know as small business? Who would take the risk? And don't delude yourself into thinking that altruistic motives would ensure the same level of innovation, and economic engine, it won't, there are examples of how that fails...

    My question to you, is how can you get so behind such a failing thought process as liberalism? What drives you to believe that policies that have been huge failures are only due to you not being able to do enough of them?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    ObamaCare architect says lack of transparency helped law pass, cites 'stupidity of the American voter' | Fox News

    Based upon the last election looks to me like the American voter is waking up. Wonder why he still has a 41% JAR
    Typically, just about every party does bad in the mud-term elections.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Typically, just about every party does bad in the mud-term elections.
    Hey Bob...Isn't it funny how regardless of party, we could hear about the same type of answer from the party in power? Hell, I remember in '06 saying nearly the same thing defending the Bush administration against a demo take over of congress...Typically you're right, especially in the second mid term of a President's tenure. However, what I see out there is a real disappointment, disgust, and remorse for re electing this liar we have in there right now....You'd expect the opposing party to want to hamper the sitting President of an opposing party, especially one that is so dishonest, and unwilling to work with them on anything, but it isn't just reps that ousted demo's this last election.

    When Obama made statements like "Make no mistake, my policies are on the ballot".... He sealed demo's fate. Republicans turned out, and demo's stayed home....You tell me why?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    When Obama made statements like "Make no mistake, my policies are on the ballot".... He sealed demo's fate. Republicans turned out, and demo's stayed home....You tell me why?
    Well, no matter what political power you have in the White House those mid-terms hurt them.

    Yet it's not all those Presidents' fault that this occurs. Most of the blame can be placed on the lawmaking branch (no matter which political side.) that cares more about polls and their special interests than actually serving their constituents that starts the process of hurting the country.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Its not that hard. Say we go back and pay what we paid in the past, accounting for inflation. Wouldn't that be fair?
    Again, you want to define what is fair and that is only up to the individual. If someone thinks they aren't being paid a fair wage, they are free to move on. Care to define what a fair wage is for a 16-18 year old individual living at home with their parents with no rent, no insurance, no outside personal expenses?

    You judge everyone by your own standards never taking into account not everyone has your standards.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Well, no matter what political power you have in the White House those mid-terms hurt them.

    Yet it's not all those Presidents' fault that this occurs. Most of the blame can be placed on the lawmaking branch (no matter which political side.) that cares more about polls and their special interests than actually serving their constituents that starts the process of hurting the country.
    Yeah, the senate has the approval rating of bubonic plague, yet we're supposed to believe this line about the mid terms being a referendum on the president?

    Yet this too often goes hand in hand with the stupidity of the voters, since incumbents usually win, no matter how senile or how harmful their voting record.

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