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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Safety. The Republican arm of the Republocrats is big on the fear mongering. Don't think for yourself, government will keep you safe....by spying on you and restricting your rights and liberties and otherwise draconian, Big Brother tactics.

    It's all a ruse, everything the Republocrats do is to increase size and scope and power of government.
    It's not too often you see people coming out against public safety.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There's defense, and then there is excessive government force against the rights and liberties of the people. I know it's hard for you to understand. From the War on Drugs to the War on Terror, Republicans have used fear mongering to expand their power and act against the People. It's a way to make people dependent upon the government for every little thing. Before you know it, 1 person gets ebola and people are trained to freak out and run to the government.

    The main role of the Federal Government is to uphold and proliferate our rights and liberties. Common defense is but a piece of that bigger picture. I know that's hard for you to understand.
    You claimed that the Republicans have created dependence just like the Democrats. I am waiting for proof?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's not too often you see people coming out against public safety.
    It depends. There can be legitimate threats that can be handled in intelligent manners to increase safety. Then there is fear mongering over low probability events to encourage emotionalized response and justify gross expansion of power. The Republicans are particularly good at the latter. It creates a form of dependency on government, teaches people not to think about a problem and handle it themselves if possible; but to immediately run to government and expect government to solve all of our problems; and if they happen to Big Brother it up in the process, well that's just all fine and dandy. Safety!
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You appear to be confusing the GOP with Conservativeism. All Conservatives can do is hope to influence the Republican Party, just as the far left influenced the Democrats.
    NOPE. Conservatives (lilke the poster I was responding to) genuinely believe that those GOP pols they voted for will do their bidding, i. e. oppose Obamacare.

    AS hard as it is for any sane person to believe, they're actually naive enough to not recognize that these pols are merely saying they oppose it, while actually supporting it.

    And so I ask the question: what's the source of this mental deficiency? Anyone??!

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    NOPE. Conservatives (lilke the poster I was responding to) genuinely believe that those GOP pols they voted for will do their bidding, i. e. oppose Obamacare.
    I am a Constitutional Conservative. I know other Constitutional Conservatives. None of us believe the Republicans will do the right thing and save the nation. You are simply wrong.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    NOPE. Conservatives (lilke the poster I was responding to) genuinely believe that those GOP pols they voted for will do their bidding, i. e. oppose Obamacare.

    AS hard as it is for any sane person to believe, they're actually naive enough to not recognize that these pols are merely saying they oppose it, while actually supporting it.

    And so I ask the question: what's the source of this mental deficiency? Anyone??!


    Yes, a sane person wouldn't buy that contradictory nonsense for one minute.

    Yes, I OPPOSE the ACA but I support it completely. .......huh ?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Attack on what a business hiring someone to do work that doesn't require much other than OJT to do, is just not worth much. Largely because of the glut of labor looking for a job today. I know you'd like to say that things are so rosy in terms of employment today, because you buy into, lock, stock, and barrel that UE is actually below 6%, when in reality it isn't.

    In my area, and with two adult children gearing up to shortly move out on their own, upon completing their education, we have done the math...to live on their own here it takes about $1600. per month. That equates to roughly $9.50 an hour. If you can find a job today, it doesn't take much to get to that number, and not by government force either.

    Market forces will follow demand...Liberals in my mind have it backwards. You want government to tell business what they will pay, while at the same time destroying the availability of jobs to get...It doesn't work like that. And you being in business for yourself these days, I'd think you'd understand that.
    Isn't it? Account for inflation, and we paid much more in the past, and did better doing so. The market is not magic and is manipulated by all kinds of players. What we need is balance and not one side winning. Right now, employers are winning and we are suffering for it. Many moves by government have redistributed the wealth from working people to business owners. And it doesn't trickle down. In fact, it makes everything worse. Higher wages mean more money to spend. More money to spend means more business. More business means lower prices and not higher prices. But it can go too far that way as well, which led to it swinging back this way.

    The point is, we can measure what is a minimal living wage. We can define poverty. We can have some idea of what is fair.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This was bullying by the federal government. The offenders were in a subcontracted janitorial service. But the subcontractors don't have deep pockets so the Feds, a crime syndicate, went after Walmart.

    This would have been clear to you if you were interested enough to seek the truth.
    it's just as likely Walmart was simply guilty.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it's just as likely Walmart was simply guilty.
    Right. No. It was bullying.

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