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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Sure it was - for the entire country, though. The ACA improves health care by involving everyone. The more people with health care, the better off this country will be.
    It's wealth redistribution...period. That's why they had to lie about it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Or lower costs for those of us who didn't need an entitlement program to pay for our healthcare.
    We're the ones it was designed to **** over.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're the ones it was designed to **** over.
    ...and pay for it.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    ...and pay for it.
    That's right. Take from the haves and give to the have-nots. Classic communism.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's wealth redistribution...period. That's why they had to lie about it.
    Taxes are not wealth redistribution. The government does provide some services, and it was designed to be able to do that through taxation. Yes, you and tres are the reason Gruber felt the ACA needed to be disguised, because apparently taxation = communism now.

    It's, uhh, sad at best.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Taxes are not wealth redistribution. The government does provide some services, and it was designed to be able to do that through taxation. Yes, you and tres are the reason Gruber felt the ACA needed to be disguised, because apparently taxation = communism now.

    It's, uhh, sad at best.
    No, folks like me and Tres saw through the subterfuge. It was desguised, so people like you would go out and pimp the bill. Gruber wasn't talking about folks like me and Tres, when he referred to the stupidity of the American people, with Obama.

    The sad part, is that even after the lies have been exposed and admitted to, you and your ilk are STILL pimping the bill!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    The Constitution does not spell out every possible thing Congress can do. It's a guideline.

    And hold on. First of all, don't compare slavery to a bill that attempts to improve health care for everyone in the country. That's dumb as ****.
    So, you don't think that being forced to something that you don't want to do, by someone that has no authority to do so, has any similarities with slavery? Right.

    Oh, and it does say the the federal government is limited to the powers given to it by the Constitution. If it doesn't say it has a power, then that power belongs to the States and the people. It doesn't just get to grab it.

    Secondly, building tanks isn't in there either. Flying drones. I don't recall the CIA being in the Constitution. What about Air Force One? I don't recall that being written in by the Founders either.
    I can only guess that you are joking with that statement. Notice, I didn't call it dumb or juvenile.

    Congress is given specific authority to declare war, raise and support armies, provide for a navy, establish the rules for the operation of American military forces, organize and arm the militias of the states, and specify the conditions for converting the militias into national service

    A Constitutional Basis for National Security and Defense

    Let's try to argue above a grade school level here, please.
    I don't think it is "dumb" to call out the government when violating the Constitution. Let's not call other's argument's names or at grade school level, shall we? Especially when you are in the wrong.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, folks like me and Tres saw through the subterfuge. It was desguised, so people like you would go out and pimp the bill. Gruber wasn't talking about folks like me and Tres, when he referred to the stupidity of the American people, with Obama.

    The sad part, is that even after the lies have been exposed and admitted to, you and your ilk are STILL pimping the bill!
    Do you not get it? I want full unvervsal health care. It doesn't have to be disguised for me. How do you not get that? Is it that hard? Let me spell it for you:

    I WANTED IT, AND PERSONALLY, IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH FOR ME.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, folks like me and Tres saw through the subterfuge. It was desguised, so people like you would go out and pimp the bill. Gruber wasn't talking about folks like me and Tres, when he referred to the stupidity of the American people, with Obama.

    The sad part, is that even after the lies have been exposed and admitted to, you and your ilk are STILL pimping the bill!
    And unless you haven't voted GOP or Dem before, yes you are one of them as well. The GOP have also voted for big pork projects that the taxpayers have had to fork out money for. Do you REALLY think we need an organization as big as homeland security? Gimme a break. Anyone that votes Dem or GOP are paying for large government and large taxes.

    Might want to get off that soapbox before you fall off it.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Do you not get it? I want full unvervsal health care. It doesn't have to be disguised for me. How do you not get that? Is it that hard? Let me spell it for you:

    I WANTED IT, AND PERSONALLY, IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH FOR ME.
    You prove Gruber's point!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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