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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    If only the Confederates had won the civil war.
    What does the civil war have to do with this discussion?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Nothing is the same. Article one has long since been abandoned. The federal government does whatever it wants. We have 500 independent agencies all making laws, acting as police, and juries. We have an imperial president who makes laws and changes existing laws.

    The people are no longer governed. The people are ruled.

    The states have no say in the federal government. They should control their senators. Progressives managed to convince the people to give up that safeguard. And now, one hundred years later the end of liberty for the people is at hand.

    I do not understand why those on the left enjoy the prospect of the death of the nation so eagerly. Can you explain?
    Yes I can explain--you get off on hyperbole. That is the only explanation for your post that makes sense.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, and they don't use them up on these things, and Walmart isn't exactly fundless.
    Really? So you believe it is okay for a federal government to spend many millions of dollars to bully a private entity?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wal-Mart to Pay $11 Million
    Chain Settles Illegal-Worker Investigation

    Wal-Mart to Pay $11 Million (washingtonpost.com)
    11 million? So how does that enhance Wal-Mart's bottomline when a contractor hired illegal workers. How do you know they lowered their fee to Wal-Mart for their services?

    But Wal-Mart admitted no wrongdoing in the case, saying it was unaware contractors were employing illegal immigrants.
    Were there other contractors available to do the same work? You seem to be an expert on this case although I doubt it as you cut and pasted what you want to believe but didn't read the entire article or want to believe that the illegal's didn't enhance Wal-Mart's bottomline

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yes I can explain--you get off on hyperbole. That is the only explanation for your post that makes sense.
    I suppose to one why may not have ever lived in a free country wanting the Constitutional balance of powers restored cannot make sense. What part do you believe is wrong? What can't the federal government do? What are its limits?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    FYI, here are some sweet factoids about social welfare in America:

    Social Welfare Developments in the 1700s - Social Welfare History Project

    Before America even existed, Benjamin Franklin helped found the Pennsylvania Hospital:


    It was free of charge, of course, funded by the donations of citizens from the great city of the state. That being said, probably the most famous founding father in history created a hospital that was free of charge. In fact, according to Penn Medicine:

    Pennsylvania Hospital History: Historical Timeline - Benjamin Franklin


    And more:
    Benjamin Franklin | The Philanthropy Hall of Fame | The Philanthropy Roundtable


    Holy ****, what a socialist!!!

    More from the Social Welfare site:

    In 1789, the government decided to give aid to veterans:


    More free money to people in need? Crazy!!!!!!!! And more:

    In 1795, Thomas Mother****ing Paine thought socialism was pretty tight:


    Honestly, Conservative, you might want to move, because clearly the Founders just weren't what you thought. It's all been a lie!

    Should I keep digging? Do we want to learn about other founding fathers, and the steps they took for the social well-being of our nation?
    Naw, I live in TX where personal responsibility is respected and valued. You live in an alternative universe with an 18 trillion dollar debt and massive central govt. Our Part time legislature is just like the Founders created

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Please, enlighten us on it. Show us how the Founding Fathers were against the idea of nationalized health care - a topic that couldn't have crossed their minds because it didn't exist yet.
    Modern health care still doesn't exist in some places. Think they're still using leeches as treatment down in arkansas, yet they are supposed to have an equal say in health care access in california? This is even more ridiculous than conjuring george washington for his opinion of HMO denying coverage based on "preexisting conditions"

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What does the civil war have to do with this discussion?
    You said that the collapse of America began some 100 years ago. The progressive era probably never would have come about if the Confederates had won.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Naw, I live in TX where personal responsibility is respected and valued. You live in an alternative universe with an 18 trillion dollar debt and massive central govt. Our Part time legislature is just like the Founders created
    I accept your concession. Thanks.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I accept your concession. Thanks.
    i actually accept the fact that Gruber nailed it in calling the liberal base stupid

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