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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's one interpretation, a rather generous one not supported by facts, but one. Here's another, they were guilty and wanted it settled.
    I believe you know better. The government has unlimited funds. The government can just print more. Walmart does not have unlimited funds. It was cheaper to settle than to do the right thing and fight. Loser pays would help. Limiting the funds available to go after anyone the feds want to would also help.

    I believe this is another indication of just how much you and others on the left support tyranny.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    When I was in the third grade much of this was still true. The states have not had a role since they lost their power over their senators.

    I am surprised you failed to mention that the entire Constitution is written to limit the federal government. That too, is from the third grade.

    Now do the second half of the assignment. You have given the textbook answer, partially. How does it compare to today?
    Gee, I thought it was common knowledge that the very basic nature of the Constitution is to protect us, the people, from the government. It outlines what the government can do and, quite explicitly, says that the federal government does not have the power to do anything that the Constitution does not give it the power to do.

    Obviously (well, to those that are honest with themselves) today's government has gone completely off the rails and violates the Constitution every day. And thus, it violates or rights and freedoms. And gee, go figure, that's why our government is such a mess and we loath it.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Gee, I thought it was common knowledge that the very basic nature of the Constitution is to protect us, the people, from the government. It outlines what the government can do and, quite explicitly, says that the federal government does not have the power to do anything that the Constitution does not give it the power to do.

    Obviously (well, to those that are honest with themselves) today's government has gone completely off the rails and violates the Constitution every day. And thus, it violates or rights and freedoms. And gee, go figure, that's why our government is such a mess and we loath it.
    Please cite some examples of the Constitution being violated.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why am I not answering honestly? The three branches still exist, as does the Bill of Rights, and senators and representatives elected by each state still comprise the Federal government. It's the exact same.
    Nothing is the same. Article one has long since been abandoned. The federal government does whatever it wants. We have 500 independent agencies all making laws, acting as police, and juries. We have an imperial president who makes laws and changes existing laws.

    The people are no longer governed. The people are ruled.

    The states have no say in the federal government. They should control their senators. Progressives managed to convince the people to give up that safeguard. And now, one hundred years later the end of liberty for the people is at hand.

    I do not understand why those on the left enjoy the prospect of the death of the nation so eagerly. Can you explain?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I believe you know better. The government has unlimited funds. The government can just print more. Walmart does not have unlimited funds. It was cheaper to settle than to do the right thing and fight. Loser pays would help. Limiting the funds available to go after anyone the feds want to would also help.

    I believe this is another indication of just how much you and others on the left support tyranny.
    Oh, and they don't use them up on these things, and Walmart isn't exactly fundless.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Nothing is the same. Article one has long since been abandoned. The federal government does whatever it wants. We have 500 independent agencies all making laws, acting as police, and juries. We have an imperial president who makes laws and changes existing laws.

    The people are no longer governed. The people are ruled.

    The states have no say in the federal government. They should control their senators. Progressives managed to convince the people to give up that safeguard. And now, one hundred years later the end of liberty for the people is at hand.

    I do not understand why those on the left enjoy the prospect of the death of the nation so eagerly. Can you explain?
    A bit over the top, eh? Why don't you just call you state elected senators/representatives? Take your frustration on Obama out on them, instead of making weird rants on a message board. Executive privilege isn't my favorite either, but it existed long before Obama.

    Other than that, I don't see what it is you have to complain about.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    "Do you believe anyone objects to what individuals do?

    What does the Constitution allow?"
    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Misterveritis - you shouldn't jump into conversations if you don't know what they are about. This was in response to Conservative and the lady who has the cattle horns as her avatar, who both believed they knew exactly how all of the Founding Fathers felt about social programs and health care. Turns out, they didn't know anything.
    Why do we call those few men the founders? Does it have anything to do with the US Constitution?

    Their individual actions of largess are immaterial to what they thought about coercing the citizens to pay for that which individuals and families ought to do for themselves.

    It turns out they know quite a bit about what is relevant.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The states have no say in the federal government. They should control their senators. Progressives managed to convince the people to give up that safeguard. And now, one hundred years later the end of liberty for the people is at hand.
    If only the Confederates had won the civil war.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Do you believe anyone objects to what individuals do?

    What does the Constitution allow?"

    Why do we call those few men the founders? Does it have anything to do with the US Constitution?

    Their individual actions of largess are immaterial to what they thought about coercing the citizens to pay for that which individuals and families ought to do for themselves.

    It turns out they know quite a bit about what is relevant.
    I can't respond to you anymore. Nothing you say is coherent.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    A bit over the top, eh? Why don't you just call you state elected senators/representatives? Take your frustration on Obama out on them, instead of making weird rants on a message board. Executive privilege isn't my favorite either, but it existed long before Obama.

    Other than that, I don't see what it is you have to complain about.
    I do call and email my representative regularly. Senator Sessions is on the correct side, that is to say the Constitutional side, of every issue I have followed.

    There is a difference between executive privilege and executive orders that legislate or change laws. Do you know the difference?

    Lawful executive orders are used to manage and control the executive branch. They do not make law. They do not change law. Prior presidents have abused them as well. It remains wrong and Obama is the only president that matters today.

    You cannot see the danger because you have a very short attention span.

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