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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    FYI, here are some sweet factoids about social welfare in America:

    Social Welfare Developments in the 1700s - Social Welfare History Project

    Before America even existed, Benjamin Franklin helped found the Pennsylvania Hospital:
    The Pennsylvania Hospital is founded in 1751 by Dr. Thomas Bond and Benjamin Franklin “…to care for the sick-poor and insane who were wandering the streets of Philadelphia.”
    It was free of charge, of course, funded by the donations of citizens from the great city of the state. That being said, probably the most famous founding father in history created a hospital that was free of charge. In fact, according to Penn Medicine:

    Pennsylvania Hospital History: Historical Timeline - Benjamin Franklin
    With Franklin's talent for popularizing an idea, funds were obtained from both the Pennsylvania legislature and private citizens in 1751
    And more:
    Benjamin Franklin | The Philanthropy Hall of Fame | The Philanthropy Roundtable
    While raising funds for the Pennsylvania Hospital, Franklin approached the colonial legislature to propose that once the hospital had raised 2,000 in private contributions, the colonial government should contribute another 2,000 to the effort. “Every man’s donation would be doubled,” Franklin later wrote. “The subscriptions accordingly soon exceeded the requisite sum.”
    Holy ****, what a socialist!!!

    More from the Social Welfare site:

    In 1789, the government decided to give aid to veterans:
    The Federal Government accepts the responsibility of providing pensions to disabled veterans of the Revolutionary War.
    More free money to people in need? Crazy!!!!!!!! And more:

    In 1795, Thomas Mother****ing Paine thought socialism was pretty tight:
    Thomas Paine published his pamphlet Agrarian Justice, in which he proposed a social welfare insurance program for the nations of Europe and potentially for the young American Republic.
    Honestly, Conservative, you might want to move, because clearly the Founders just weren't what you thought. It's all been a lie!

    Should I keep digging? Do we want to learn about other founding fathers, and the steps they took for the social well-being of our nation?
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
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    In other words they were bullied by a Federal government whose politicians did not receive enough of a "take" from Walmart.

    You have given an example of tyranny at work.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is very clear that the federal government was not granted the authority to legislate in the healthcare arena. They states may do so if they choose but the federal government has no Constitutional authority to act. They are tyrannical.

    And, as you mentioned, this is grade school level stuff.
    Ah yes, it is very clear. Which is why they did, and the courts have (so far) allowed it. Maybe you should get a law degree and get appointed to the Supreme Court - they clearly need you.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    In other words they were bullied by a Federal government whose politicians did not receive enough of a "take" from Walmart.

    You have given an example of tyranny at work.
    That's one interpretation, a rather generous one not supported by facts, but one. Here's another, they were guilty and wanted it settled.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    When I was in the third grade much of this was still true. The states have not had a role since they lost their power over their senators.

    I am surprised you failed to mention that the entire Constitution is written to limit the federal government. That too, is from the third grade.

    Now do the second half of the assignment. You have given the textbook answer, partially. How does it compare to today?
    All of those powers still exist - so I'd say it compares just fine. You can take the tinfoil hat off now.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    FYI, here are some sweet factoids about social welfare in America:

    Social Welfare Developments in the 1700s - Social Welfare History Project

    Before America even existed, Benjamin Franklin helped found the Pennsylvania Hospital:


    It was free of charge, of course, funded by the donations of citizens from the great city of the state. That being said, probably the most famous founding father in history created a hospital that was free of charge. In fact, according to Penn Medicine:

    Pennsylvania Hospital History: Historical Timeline - Benjamin Franklin


    And more:
    Benjamin Franklin | The Philanthropy Hall of Fame | The Philanthropy Roundtable


    Holy ****, what a socialist!!!

    More from the Social Welfare site:

    In 1789, the government decided to give aid to veterans:


    More free money to people in need? Crazy!!!!!!!! And more:

    In 1795, Thomas Mother****ing Paine thought socialism was pretty tight:


    Honestly, Conservative, you might want to move, because clearly the Founders just weren't what you thought. It's all been a lie!

    Should I keep digging? Do we want to learn about other founding fathers, and the steps they took for the social well-being of our nation?
    Do you believe anyone objects to what individuals do?

    What does the Constitution allow?

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You just accused the entire Republican caucus of being so bigoted they refused tom work with Obama because he was black.

    So what Republicans haven't been successful with blacks, when was the last time the Democrats elected a black president.

    never give up making excuses and arguing red herrings, you would not be a Democrat otherwise
    You'll have to show me where I accused anybody of anything. Must be a RW dog whistle.


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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    All of those powers still exist - so I'd say it compares just fine. You can take the tinfoil hat off now.
    I never doubted that you would fail to answer honestly. You are a liberal, after all.

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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you believe anyone objects to what individuals do?

    What does the Constitution allow?
    Misterveritis - you shouldn't jump into conversations if you don't know what they are about. This was in response to Conservative and the lady who has the cattle horns as her avatar, who both believed they knew exactly how all of the Founding Fathers felt about social programs and health care. Turns out, they didn't know anything.
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    Re: Stupidity of the American Voter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I never doubted that you would fail to answer honestly. You are a liberal, after all.
    Why am I not answering honestly? The three branches still exist, as does the Bill of Rights, and senators and representatives elected by each state still comprise the Federal government. It's the exact same.
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