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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The GOP hasn't really altered much, but they do seem to have toned it down a notch. It's more "let's stop fighting so hard on a few battles we're clearly losing."

    And also "HEY, ****BIRDS, STOP TALKING ABOUT RAPE BECAUSE OUR OPINIONS ON RAPE ARE HORRIFYING AND THE PUBLIC ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS US EVERY TIME WE BRING IT UP"
    I think it's their candidates that changed, as I haven't noticed anything about their platform that changed. In the past the GOP ran some pretty shocking candidates - Sharron Angle, Todd the "Legitimate Rape" guy, Richard Mourdock, that bimbo Christine something or other who challenged Chris Coons, etc. and those idiots not only shot themselves in the foot, but the entire GOP as well.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

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    Hmmm.....sorry, but I don't believe welfare is the responsibility of the corporations in this country.
    Not directly, but they shouldn't be allowed to control all goods, services and trade without giving some back. There's only so much money, and if all goes to the top, there's going to be a lot of unhappy poor people.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So is it my responsibility, then, to subsidize WalMart's ****ty pay by funding TANF and SNAP for all their employees? Because that's the result. If working 70 hours a week isn't enough to feed and clothe yourself, what the hell can be done other than having taxpayers pick up the tab?
    It isn't your responsibility either. It's also not, say, Honeywell's responsibility to pay welfare for able bodied people.

    Please don't make this about WalMart.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

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    Not directly, but they shouldn't be allowed to control all goods, services and trade without giving some back. There's only so much money, and if all goes to the top, there's going to be a lot of unhappy poor people.
    How much should, say, Boeing have to give back to pay for poor people?
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So is it my responsibility, then, to subsidize WalMart's ****ty pay by funding TANF and SNAP for all their employees? Because that's the result. If working 70 hours a week isn't enough to feed and clothe yourself, what the hell can be done other than having taxpayers pick up the tab?
    It's not Walmart's fault that there are so many people who lack basic job skills that they have to work for such low wages. That's the fault of the people who lack the skills, education and basic drive to have learned it when they were supposed to. Maybe if society held people accountable for their actions, or lack thereof, there wouldn't be such a problem.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I think it's their candidates that changed, as I haven't noticed anything about their platform that changed. In the past the GOP ran some pretty shocking candidates - Sharron Angle, Todd the "Legitimate Rape" guy, Richard Mourdock, that bimbo Christine something or other who challenged Chris Coons, etc. and those idiots not only shot themselves in the foot, but the entire GOP as well.
    Sharron Angle was the most egregious, I think. She is the reason Harry Reid is still in charge of the senate. (well, until January now, anyway). Reid was just about the least popular senator in the entire country, and he was a Democrat in a state that isn't exactly the bluest of states. Generic McRepublican could have mopped the floor with him. Instead, we got some Crazy Cat Lady who started into conspiracy theory rants about Reid when asked about statements on her own website.

    Christine O'Donnel (?) is a close second. When your candidate starts a campaign ad with "I am not a witch," something has gone seriously wrong.
    GOP did a lot better this time around. Kept their folks in line. They actually had seminars on this stuff. Are the candidates better, or just better at hiding the crazy? We'll see!
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    [url=http://news.yahoo.com/big-review-set-democrats-election-losses-194542926--election.html]Big review set by Democrats after election losses[/url



    The Democrats were handed such big losses, because they've pushed the liberal agenda too hard. There weren't enough voters to counter the older and middle aged conservatives, who are afraid of the immigration issue, acceptance of LGBT community, social programs, legalization of marijuana, taxes and poor economic performance. Too much change, too soon got a lot of the older vote out, meaning the Dems need to slow their roll and find some middle ground. Obama's unpopularity and lack of response, especially on the recent News coverage of ISIS and Ebola hasn't helped. The Dems risk having no majorities or Presidency in 2016, if they don't learn to compromise on how hard they go left.. looking to pick up the swing vote from the middle.

    Both parties don't seem to realize that a majority of people are split or in the middle of many political issues, not to the extremes.
    You are reading WAAAAAAAY too much into this. Extensive exiting polling showed that people were equally disenchanted with Republicans as they are Democrats. The difference in the Senate shift rested primarily with red state Democrats falling to Republicans. This isn't surprising nor is it rare in mid-term elections.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How much should, say, Boeing have to give back to pay for poor people?
    I know the airlines don't make much profit in today's environment. Though there should be regulations that limit corporate control of certain industries from gauging customers. When I saw the 2008 recession and collapse due to debt, I knew the retail companies would suffer, while the commodities corporations would start raising prices.

    There is no easy way to prevent the corporate attitude of 'profit above humanity', but if some solutions aren't found, it won't self correct.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sharron Angle was the most egregious, I think. She is the reason Harry Reid is still in charge of the senate. (well, until January now, anyway). Reid was just about the least popular senator in the entire country, and he was a Democrat in a state that isn't exactly the bluest of states. Generic McRepublican could have mopped the floor with him. Instead, we got some Crazy Cat Lady who started into conspiracy theory rants about Reid when asked about statements on her own website.

    Christine O'Donnel (?) is a close second. When your candidate starts a campaign ad with "I am not a witch," something has gone seriously wrong.
    Christine - yes I think she was O'Donnell. The one who had to make the videos "I am NOT a witch". Man she was doomed before she even started, and I can only imagine what kind of malfeasance she would have committed in the Senate had she gotten there.

    Sharron Angle is a moron. I really like Sue - oh **** I can't remember her last name - and also the Tarkanian guy. It's because of Angle that Harry Reid is still around wreaking havoc.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    You know NIMBY, the Fox thing the left clings to is rather silly. The highest rated program on FOX only reaches 2.5 million viewers. What fraction of the "right" does that represent? As to talk radio, there is certainly a slight advantage to shows on the right, but it's not nearly what is suggested. NPR, a decidedly left radio programing broadcast has ratings approaching 30 million per week.
    That's not really a fair comparison.

    NPR airs over 30 programs nationally, only a small handful of which ever deal with current news and/or politics.

    While those programs may have 30 million weekly listeners in aggregate none of them approach anything like those numbers individually or on a daily basis.

    Now, if you want to argue that something like the Diane Rehm program is overwhelmingly liberal I'd be inclined to agree with you, but that particular program is only pulling in around 2 million listeners weekly.

    Most of the NPR programming I listen to is decidedly middle-of-the-road. If it wasn't, if it was biased in either direction, I wouldn't waste my time listening to it (as I don't listen to Diane Rehm's progressive screed).

    For what it's worth, NPR also airs programming that tends to lean a bit more conservative. Not overwhelmingly so, but there's certainly a slight lean. I'd suggest listening to the Marketplace program a time or two if you're interested. It revolves more around business (the "marketplace" - duh) than politics, but when it does dip into politics or policy it tends to be with a fairly rational, slightly conservative slant (as one might expect from a program that speaks to business issues).
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