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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What are you talking about?
    You wanted to assign value to people's work for the purposes of compensation. Which part of the question was confusing for you?

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Oh, they don't have positions on issues, like the Republicans?
    Positions yes, but what is the agenda?

    Yeah really, there were actually more Republican voters, hence the majority of wins.
    taht was not the point, the point was being afraid of immigration and I was positing that it was the older voters who created the problem.

    Immigration has been an ongoing problem that neither side is addressing realistically.
    Yea, for a very long time now.

    I just gave reasons why the older people are slow to change, doesn't mean I agree. You're drawing false conclusions from too little information.
    Fair enough, my bad then.

    I'm sorry but that's a bunch of crappola. Profits and overvalued markets aren't helping the lower, middle classes with increased cost of living expenses, low wages, unemployment and lack of benefits.
    So what are yo complaining about then?

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Worker's are not thieves, they give their time. effort and knowledge. A worker that does his/her job well and works full-time deserves a wage that they can live on.
    This is a wonderful example of Marxism at work. Cool beans.

    People are paid based on the value they bring to the organization they work for. If they cannot live on what they earn they need to upgrade their skills.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Worker's are not thieves, they give their time. effort and knowledge. A worker that does his/her job well and works full-time deserves a wage that they can live on.
    You don't believe in entry level jobs? Every job has to be a career job?
    Like the guy who wipes down your car after it's been washed? Really?

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is actually wrong about wages being determined by value? What would you base it on? That someone is human and needs stuff?
    Yours is circular reasoning, that's the problem. "You are paid this much, therefore your work is this valuable."

    It's incorrect, based on some weird fairy tale universe where everything is fair and everyone is paid what they "deserve," no more, no less.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    You don't believe in entry level jobs? Every job has to be a career job?
    Like the guy who wipes down your car after it's been washed? Really?
    Do you think it is possible for everyone to have a "career job" that pays a "living wage?"
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Positions yes, but what is the agenda?
    Agenda would be like a plan or set of common talking points on certain issues.

    taht was not the point, the point was being afraid of immigration and I was positing that it was the older voters who created the problem.
    How did the older voters create the porous border problem or desire for cheap labor in the south west?

    Yea, for a very long time now.
    We can't realistically ship all illegals back, but we can pardon the ones here that aren't criminals and control the border better.

    Fair enough, my bad then.
    No problem, assumptions happen.

    So what are yo complaining about then?
    I'm not complaining, I was simply giving an opinion as to why older conservatives swung the vote this election.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you think it is possible for everyone to have a "career job" that pays a "living wage?"
    Your definition of a career job and mine are two entirely different animals...no doubt.
    But thanks for answering my question with a deflection.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    Your definition of a career job and mine are two entirely different animals...no doubt.
    But thanks for answering my question with a deflection.
    I was using your definition, whatever that may be. the real world is more complicated than your overly simple questions, so I was hoping to get some discussions along those lines to more accurately give you my opinion on the subjects .

    have a nice day.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you think it is possible for everyone to have a "career job" that pays a "living wage?"
    Not as long as we live in a post-Constitutional era.

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