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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

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    I don't really disagree.

    There are plenty of programs that could easily stand on their own merit and a whole lot of garbage that only exists because of public subsidies.

    Then again, I feel the same way about entertainment in general.

    Professional sports shouldn't be subsidized by mandatory inclusion in basic cable packages.

    If ESPN and the hundred other sports programing outlets can't get the folks who actually watch/listen to their programming to foot the entire bill then they should be allowed to die.
    I prefer to keep the propaganda arm of the government separated from other forms of coercion. Cable is dying. Bundling is one of the reasons.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is actually wrong about wages being determined by value? What would you base it on? That someone is human and needs stuff?
    Yes, its called treating people decently rather than exploiting a person's desperate situation. Its akin to giving a dying person in the deert a free or cheap glass of water rather than charging as much as you can.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Yes, its called treating people decently rather than exploiting a person's desperate situation. Its akin to giving a dying person in the deert a free or cheap glass of water rather than charging as much as you can.
    If you feel strongly about it then use YOUR money.

    How are you different than any other thief that roams the streets?

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    The Democrats were handed such big losses, because they've pushed the liberal agenda too hard.
    What agenda would that be?

    There weren't enough voters to counter the older and middle aged conservatives, who are afraid of the immigration issue
    Really? And who made it a problem because SAS it did not crop up overnight?

    acceptance of LGBT community
    Right, because rights that protect everyone are bad and bigotry and selfishness are so much better.

    poor economic performance.
    Because record profits and market levels are terrible.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is actually wrong about wages being determined by value? What would you base it on? That someone is human and needs stuff?
    So you are saying that it should be you who makes such determinations because someone died and left you in charge or because you are the only one who can do so? I am curious, what is your valuation system?

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    What agenda would that be?
    Oh, they don't have positions on issues, like the Republicans?


    Really? And who made it a problem because SAS it did not crop up overnight?
    Yeah really, there were actually more Republican voters, hence the majority of wins.

    Immigration has been an ongoing problem that neither side is addressing realistically.


    Right, because rights that protect everyone are bad and bigotry and selfishness are so much better.
    I just gave reasons why the older people are slow to change, doesn't mean I agree. You're drawing false conclusions from too little information.


    Because record profits and market levels are terrible.
    I'm sorry but that's a bunch of crappola. Profits and overvalued markets aren't helping the lower, middle classes with increased cost of living expenses, low wages, unemployment and lack of benefits.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    So you are saying that it should be you who makes such determinations because someone died and left you in charge or because you are the only one who can do so? I am curious, what is your valuation system?
    What are you talking about?

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Yes, its called treating people decently rather than exploiting a person's desperate situation. Its akin to giving a dying person in the deert a free or cheap glass of water rather than charging as much as you can.
    Really? The water in the middle of the desert example? You know, no one is sitting around in the middle of the desert with nothing else around for miles selling water.

    Sure, I could be a nice guy and overpay for labor, but if everyone else in the industry is paying people ten dollars an hour for the work and I'm paying twenty-five for the work I better have a way to make up the difference.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Yes, its called treating people decently rather than exploiting a person's desperate situation. Its akin to giving a dying person in the deert a free or cheap glass of water rather than charging as much as you can.
    Except they're going to need another one shortly, and then another and another until the rest of the tribe is hurting for water too.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If you feel strongly about it then use YOUR money.

    How are you different than any other thief that roams the streets?
    Worker's are not thieves, they give their time. effort and knowledge. A worker that does his/her job well and works full-time deserves a wage that they can live on.

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