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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I appreciate the defense of NPR. However, there is a reason certain groups and individuals donate to it.
    As an individual I donate to it because I enjoy the programming.

    Probably the same reason anyone pays (either directly or through the access their listening provides to paying advertisers) for any type of entertainment.

    Beyond that, the greater point remains valid.
    I didn't disagree with your point in general.

    I don't think FOX is nearly as influential as many on the left make it out to be.

    It has a small cadre of die hard listeners who tune in primarily to hear their prejudices reinforced.

    It certainly isn't swaying elections.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    The Dems lost because they ran their campaigns like little bitches. They ran afraid and actively tried to scare their voters into going to the polls. Fear doesn't work the same on Dems as it does with Republicans.

    Run on what you will do and address reality.

    They wanted a chance in hell.

    That wasn't possible if they ran " what they did ".

    If they had it would have been an even bigger wash out than it was.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Is NPR still state-run media? I think it is time for it to have any government funding withheld. Let it stand, or fall, on its own.
    I don't really disagree.

    There are plenty of programs that could easily stand on their own merit and a whole lot of garbage that only exists because of public subsidies.

    Then again, I feel the same way about entertainment in general.

    Professional sports shouldn't be subsidized by mandatory inclusion in basic cable packages.

    If ESPN and the hundred other sports programing outlets can't get the folks who actually watch/listen to their programming to foot the entire bill then they should be allowed to die.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    They wanted a chance in hell.

    That wasn't possible if they ran " what they did ".

    If they had it would have been an even bigger wash out than it was.
    I'd prefer that than running scared and looking like a bunch of cowards.
    A man without fear is a fool, a man that succumbs to his fear is a coward and a brave man acknowledges fear yet presses on.
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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    As an individual I donate to it because I enjoy the programming.

    Probably the same reason anyone pays (either directly or through the access their listening provides to paying advertisers) for any type of entertainment.



    I didn't disagree with your point in general.

    I don't think FOX is nearly as influential as many on the left make it out to be.

    It has a small cadre of die hard listeners who tune in primarily to hear their prejudices reinforced.

    It certainly isn't swaying elections.
    I used to donate to PBS. They decided to turn hard left with their programming, so that came to an end. George Soros, in my opinion, one of the more dangerous men in the global socio-economic Progressive Machine effort, has donated millions to NPR for reporters and other insider efforts.

    NPR may have it's innocent middle of the road shows, but willfully taking these huge sums of money from big time political extremist operatives like Soros and others, classifies them exactly as the money, and the acceptance of it, has earned them.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    NPR may have it's innocent middle of the road shows, but willfully taking these huge sums of money from big time political extremist operatives like Soros and others, classifies them exactly as the money, and the acceptance of it, has earned them.
    Yeah, but for every penny they're taking from "big time political extremist operatives" they're taking tens or even hundreds of dollars from for profit corporations.

    Go read their 990s and their Donor Lists if you don't believe me.

    So where do we really net out here?

    George Soros makes a one-time $1.8 million donation while JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Booz Allen Hamilton, and the American Natural Gas Alliance donate hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, after year, after year.

    At the end of the day there's really an overwhelming corporate interest backing NPR.

    Yet still they're able to remain decidedly middle-of-the-road in terms of their broad spectrum of current events, political, and news coverage.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Yeah, but for every penny they're taking from "big time political extremist operatives" they're taking tens or even hundreds of dollars from for profit corporations.

    Go read their 990s and their Donor Lists if you don't believe me.

    So where do we really net out here?

    George Soros makes a one-time $1.8 million donation while JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Booz Allen Hamilton, and the American Natural Gas Alliance donate hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, after year, after year.

    At the end of the day there's really an overwhelming corporate interest backing NPR.

    Yet still they're able to remain decidedly middle-of-the-road in terms of their broad spectrum of current events, political, and news coverage.
    It seems the middle of the road has moved a great deal toward the left then. Is there really any 'right wing news' on NPR? They even fired Juan Williams for being extreme!

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Yeah, but for every penny they're taking from "big time political extremist operatives" they're taking tens or even hundreds of dollars from for profit corporations.

    Go read their 990s and their Donor Lists if you don't believe me.

    So where do we really net out here?

    George Soros makes a one-time $1.8 million donation while JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Booz Allen Hamilton, and the American Natural Gas Alliance donate hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, after year, after year.

    At the end of the day there's really an overwhelming corporate interest backing NPR.

    Yet still they're able to remain decidedly middle-of-the-road in terms of their broad spectrum of current events, political, and news coverage.
    I do read their donations lists and the IRS submissions. For example, the Ford and MacArthur foundations are two major Progressive operations. They play a vital monetary role in NPR.

    You have your opinion, and I have mine.

    Thanks for the exchange.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Yeah, but for every penny they're taking from "big time political extremist operatives" they're taking tens or even hundreds of dollars from for profit corporations.

    Go read their 990s and their Donor Lists if you don't believe me.

    So where do we really net out here?

    George Soros makes a one-time $1.8 million donation while JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Booz Allen Hamilton, and the American Natural Gas Alliance donate hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, after year, after year.

    At the end of the day there's really an overwhelming corporate interest backing NPR.

    Yet still they're able to remain decidedly middle-of-the-road in terms of their broad spectrum of current events, political, and news coverage.
    You understand that many of those corporate donations aren't to PBS's general fund but programming. They pay for a lot of the documentaries shown. It helps them keep the tone of the documentaries from becoming too anti them.

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    Re: Big review set by Democrats after election losses

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    You have your opinion, and I have mine.

    Thanks for the exchange.
    Fair enough. Always happy to leave it at that.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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