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    Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students
    11.09.2014

    MEXICO CITY — Drug gang members have described a horrific effort to make 43 teachers college students disappear, detailing an industrial-scale effort involving piling their bodies like cord wood on a pyre that burned for 15 hours and then wading into the ashes to pulverize, bag and dispose of remaining teeth and bones. Mexico's Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam laid out Friday what investigators think happened to the students who have not been seen since being attacked by police Sept. 26 in the southern city of Iguala.

    He played video of presumed gang members confessing, and another video showed hundreds of charred fragments of bone and teeth that had been dumped in and along the San Juan River in the neighboring town of Cocula. According to confessions, the students were driven to killing grounds in a dump truck so tightly packed about 15 of the young men suffocated to death. The others were then slain, apparently shot to death before being burned.

    Authorities say the high level of degradation caused by the fire makes identification difficult, and they are sending remains to a specialized laboratory in Austria. Some 74 people have been detained so far in the case, including Iguala's Mayor and his wife, who have been found to have ties to organized crime. Parents reacting to Murillo Karam's report said they have lost trust in anything the government says.

    "As long as there are no results, our sons are alive," said Felipe de la Cruz, the father of one of the disappeared. "Today they're trying to close the case this way ... a blatant way to further our torture by the federal government."

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    Iguala Mayor Jose Luis Abarca and his wife Maria de los Angeles Pineda who were arrested on the run in Mexico City. They are believed to have ties to a drug cartel and ordered the massacre


    Refuse dump near Cocula, Mexico where the the 43 bodies were incinerated


    Demonstrators set fire to the door of the main entrance of the Mexican National Palace in Mexico City

    Horrific. 74 have so far been arrested including 36 police officers. Over 100,000 have died violently due to drugs and corruption in Mexico since 2007.


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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Why did so many students had to be massacred again?
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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Why did so many students had to be massacred again?
    In late September, 49 teaching students from rural Guerrero state were on their way to Mexico City to take part in a memorial event. Passing through the city of Iguala, they commandeered three school buses. The local police arrived and the students said they had permission to use the buses. The police opened fire killing six of the students and took the remaining 43 away. They were never seen again.

    It seems the Iguala mayor and his wife were supposed to have a political event that night and didn't want the student killings to ruin it. So they ordered the police to deliver the remaining 43 students to the Guerreros Unidos drug cartel of which mayor Abarca was an operative. Cartel members were instructed to make the students disappear. What happened then is recounted in the OP.

    In regards to violence and corruption in Mexico, this horrific event may be a tipping point. The protesting crowds are getting larger, more aggressive, and are demanding President Peña Nieto’s resignation.


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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Over 100,000 have died violently due to drugs and corruption in Mexico since 2007.
    And this in a country that's a "gun-free zone," with one gun store to serve 120 million people and stiff penalties for owning or possessing illegal weapons, unless you have the resources to bribe a judge.
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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    In late September, 49 teaching students from rural Guerrero state were on their way to Mexico City to take part in a memorial event. Passing through the city of Iguala, they commandeered three school buses. The local police arrived and the students said they had permission to use the buses. The police opened fire killing six of the students and took the remaining 43 away. They were never seen again.

    It seems the Iguala mayor and his wife were supposed to have a political event that night and didn't want the student killings to ruin it. So they ordered the police to deliver the remaining 43 students to the Guerreros Unidos drug cartel of which mayor Abarca was an operative. Cartel members were instructed to make the students disappear. What happened then is recounted in the OP.

    In regards to violence and corruption in Mexico, this horrific event may be a tipping point. The protesting crowds are getting larger, more aggressive, and are demanding President Peña Nieto’s resignation.
    That is true, but we are questioning how the CSI team from Argentina could not find any traces of the bodies, just ashes.

    A crematorium needs to use a very high temperature fire to incinerate a body, one at a time, then use a crusher to smash the bones.

    We are being led to believe that 43 bodies were burned to ashes with gasoline, diesel and trash on top of them.

    I find that story lacking in believability.

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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That is true, but we are questioning how the CSI team from Argentina could not find any traces of the bodies, just ashes.

    A crematorium needs to use a very high temperature fire to incinerate a body, one at a time, then use a crusher to smash the bones.

    We are being led to believe that 43 bodies were burned to ashes with gasoline, diesel and trash on top of them.

    I find that story lacking in believability.
    The Mexican people don't buy it either. Charred bones/teeth remains being sent to Austria for DNA testing. If this is not the missing students, who is it? And where then are the missing students?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The Mexican people don't buy it either. Charred bones/teeth remains being sent to Austria for DNA testing. If this is not the missing students, who is it? And where then are the missing students?
    We here in Mexico have heard different stories. It is hard to believe all 43 were burnt there, but we will see.

    I have heard rumors or ransoms that are going to be asked for, but if that were true, why the wait?

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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We here in Mexico have heard different stories. It is hard to believe all 43 were burnt there, but we will see.

    I have heard rumors or ransoms that are going to be asked for, but if that were true, why the wait?
    Do keep us posted and reply us with quotes about this if you can, okay?
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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Do keep us posted and reply us with quotes about this if you can, okay?
    I will do the best I can.

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    Re: Mexican Officials Detail Horrific Scenario For Murdered Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I will do the best I can.
    Thanks, for it is very interesting.

    It just seems like more than 40 students died for no good reason!
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