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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    I'm retired now but in a hard scrabble environment you will never replace a man on a horse to ride the fence line and babysit the scattered cattle. Unfortunately most Americans don't want this kind of work anymore so it will be illegals doing it for the most part.
    What makes you think that meet has to come from roaming cattle? I expect that before the end of this century, it will be grown in a lab.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    No matter how much number crunching computers can do for us, at the end of it you still need a human to understand the results and make/advise a business decision. Classical accountancy where you write invoices and balance books might not be around much longer but knowledge of accounting will still going to be a key career skill for many people, for a long time.
    some in the accounting profession will remain as coaches to those who need to be able to learn what the numbers mean, but those bookkeepers whose activities will be performed digitally, what of them and their ability to earn incomes
    ditto for bank tellers
    and cashiers
    receptionists and secretaries
    pharmacists
    truck drivers, cab drivers, and couriers
    librarians
    loan officers
    real estate appraisers and brokers
    retail clerks
    teachers
    widget makers
    warehouse workers
    macdonald's/fast-food order takers
    car salesmen
    and many, many more

    while some of them will find alternative work, and some of that group will wind up in better positions, a great many will not have the aptitude to fulfill higher order job requirements

    joblessness will be exponentially greater than what we are now experiencing, as those in middle class jobs performed by those with average IQs are without work in the not-too-distant future
    for society, will that mean that their and their family's quality of life should be limited only because their ability to earn a living is impaired because of tech advances that have made them economic casualties

    we have done a terrible job figuring out how to deal with underemployment today
    the matter is not going to get better over time
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    I work in a field where we are often seen as 'replacing' people (machine learning, data/process automation). I can assure people that while it can seem like we kick people out of jobs, we create more opportunity for employment than remove it. It's down to the finance/HR people to decide whether they want to fill that opportunity with new hires.

    As far as training goes, there are now hundreds of online resources where you can learn new skills that are being taken by young and old alike. From Harvard Computer Science courses to Financial Accounting at Wharton Business School. All for free. Even 60 year old postal clerks can do that (and make no mistake, some already are).
    So far, at least, the Massive Open Online Course (MOOCs) have not revolutionized higher education and training. Of course, with experience and learning-based changes, the technologies and approaches could improve, allowing for a larger impact.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/ed...-the-mooc.html

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    They already are being replaced.
    For instance, there are surgeries that are done with computers and robotics.
    True, but isn't there a human surgeon still operating them or is my info out of date?

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This prediction is a frightening one for those of us at the age where we are not old enough to not work, but too old to retrain and start over.
    As a recent graduate and current computer technician. I'd say I picked the best career. However, the organization that I work for is not keeping up as fast as I'd like it too. So it works both ways sometimes.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    I really have difficulty seeing how capitalism and ever advancing technology will be able to co-exist in the future in such a way that most people will be able to provide well for themselves. AI could advance to the point one day where even professional jobs are being replaced.
    That is indeed the scary reality about our future. One day, not so far in the future, there simply will not be enough 40/hr per week jobs for every family to have one.

    But that doesn't mean all is lost, we will just have to work a lot fewer hours, and enter the labor market at an older age, and retire earlier. the issue will be coming up with an income distribution system that will allow what we now consider "part time work" to pay an high wage full time income.

    Unfortunately, this is probably going to come down to government policy discouraging long working hours and incouraging much higher wages. There are several ways that this can be done, but those on the far right are going to fight tooth and nail against the good of the masses. They seem to prefer either mass poverty or a huge welfare state to sensible policy that works in an economy where scarcity isn't an issue.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    anyone actually believe that expansion of computing abilities is not going to eliminate the need for humans to do many of the activities that they are now earning income to perform?
    it should be a given, whether it is a 50% job loss or not, whether it happens in 15 years or not

    a portion of society will have good jobs operating the devices that perform so much work
    but what about the rest of society, those without the aptitude to fulfill those high level positions
    will the chasm between the elite and the poor grow even wider, and the ranks of the poor even more extensive
    or will the majority at the polling booth insist that the wealth created by these machines be distributed for the benefit of society at large

    that machines will displace employment should be given
    how we respond to it seems a very open question
    Fortunately, there are answers, and ways to fix these issues without becoming either a welfare state or an empoverished nation and without communism or massive socialism.

    Unfortunately, those who can only see the world for the way it was yesterday, are going to fight against the policies that we will need for tomorrows world. It will be an epic political battle, that will probably eventually be won to our best benefit, but only after much unneccesary suffering is caused by political ideologues who don't understand how the world around is is changing.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    What does too old to retrain mean? I was teaching my 11 year old German Shepherd things until the day he died.
    That's a German Shepard.

    Have you ever tried teaching a Mexican Chihuahua to be a guard dog ?

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm glad I have a skill that can't be replaced by computers. Unless they learn to pick up a paint brush, camera or use PS and take into consideration what a client wants - I'm safe.
    There are quite a few companies that have "design online" features on their websites which allows customers to create their own artwork.

    No job, including those that require artistic skills, are immune from technology.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's a German Shepard.

    Have you ever tried teaching a Mexican Chihuahua to be a guard dog ?
    Never had the satisfaction of owning a little dog. And props for recognizing the awesomeness of German Shepherds!

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