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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

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    Simpler yes, but for a variety of reasons, I'm not a huge advocate of socialized healthcare.

    I do support socialized health insurance though (big difference).
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But I thought the progressive argument was that welfare produced twice as much economic activity that it costs to put out, or some such BS...?
    Not quite twice as much, no, but a dollar spent on food stamps results in more than a dollar's worth of economic activity. Why does that sound ridiculous? Someone just barely scraping by will save every dollar they can, spend as little as possible. With a little relief they have a couple bucks to spend on a movie ticket every once and a while, so now that person buys food and a movie ticket.

    Now, you might say "but they only had that food money because they got it from me and my tax dollars." This is true. Theoretically, we could have left that money in your pocket and you could have spent that money, resulting in similar economic activity. But there's diminishing returns to that. Someone making twice as much money doesn't buy twice as many movie tickets, or twice as many loaves of bread, twice as many cars, and twice as many televisions. Bill Gates has thousands of times my personal wealth, but he doesn't own thousands of more televisions!

    Now, don't do what we both know you're about to do.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    "Employers should not be required to offer benefits..."
    just for clarification, employers shouldn't have to offer medical or retirement benefits.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    just for clarification, employers shouldn't have to offer medical or retirement benefits.....
    Just for clarification, if you penalize employers who use overtime or part time workers, you are reimposing Blue Laws in effect and businesses will be closed on holidays and weekends when everybody else is off work and wanting to go shopping. It is a bad concept because it will never comport with the needs of commerce.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Just for clarification, if you penalize employers who use overtime or part time workers, you are reimposing Blue Laws in effect and businesses will be closed on holidays and weekends when everybody else is off work and wanting to go shopping. It is a bad concept because it will never comport with the needs of commerce.
    well, I suppose that none of us KNOW what is coming....
    Jobs that require 24/7 attendance will be a snag, but easier to overcome than massive structural unemployment.
    I worked rotating shifts for a time, it wasn't pleasant, but it was required.....it was a nuclear power plant.
    People who have to work weekends can be given time off during the week. Postal workers get a day off during the week
    to compensate for working saturdays. A day off during the week is nice, you can go shopping without having to fight the traffic and crowds.
    As for the needs of commerce, they probably said that when work weeks were far more than 40 hours.
    Commerce can just adapt to the needs of society. Having lower unemployment is better over all.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    well, I suppose that none of us KNOW what is coming....
    Jobs that require 24/7 attendance will be a snag, but easier to overcome than massive structural unemployment.
    I worked rotating shifts for a time, it wasn't pleasant, but it was required.....it was a nuclear power plant.
    People who have to work weekends can be given time off during the week. Postal workers get a day off during the week
    to compensate for working saturdays. A day off during the week is nice, you can go shopping without having to fight the traffic and crowds.
    As for the needs of commerce, they probably said that when work weeks were far more than 40 hours.
    Commerce can just adapt to the needs of society. Having lower unemployment is better over all.
    The 40 hour week was the result of Henry Ford researching and determining that was when his workers were optimal producers.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    just for clarification, employers shouldn't have to offer medical or retirement benefits.....
    unless they have agreed to it by contract, is there anything requiring them to offer retirement and medical benefits
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Here's a question for everybody.

    Do you believe that the captains of industry, the owners, the 1%, whatever you want to call them, in this country, would let us slide into a near permanent depression if it meant adding a little more to their bottom line?
    Isn't that exactly what is happening?

    I mean, if there is more wealth in fewer hands then businesses will follow the money. I recently told a story about a pair of orange women's sandals that cost $800. Were talking about a sole and two thin pieces of leather to hold them on you're feet.

    Now it's not that $800 for a article of clothing that clearly isn't worth $800 that is my point, it's the fact that this was in a department store, not in NY city, or Rodeo drive in Beverly hills, but Lord and Taylor store in Richmond VA.

    Now this is just one small out of context example, but if you look around there are lots of examples of everyday objects that serve very little additional function and cost much, much more. They are items that confer status.

    I'm also reminded of the new building in NY city that overlooks central park. I think I read that some of the condos in this monstrosity are $65 million. If you haven't seen it....

    http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...roperties).jpg

    I set it as a pic, but it's huge....

    Anyway....The money is still here and businesses will cater to those that can pay and what's becoming increasingly apparent is there are fewer and fewer people that can afford to buy discretionary items to.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Just for clarification, if you penalize employers who use overtime or part time workers, you are reimposing Blue Laws in effect and businesses will be closed on holidays and weekends when everybody else is off work and wanting to go shopping. It is a bad concept because it will never comport with the needs of commerce.
    Not really. No business is going to close during a peak shopping time to avoid hiring more workers.

    Sales is what creates profits, not cutting operating expenses. Without sales, it's impossible for a company to make money. Without operating expenses, it's also impossible for a company to make money. So why would any business chose to cut operating expenses at the cost of a reduction sales?
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    ...Jobs that require 24/7 attendance will be a snag...
    Not really.

    No job requires that the same person work 24/7/365. Everyone sleeps.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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