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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Because a shorter work week would require businesses to pay more overtime, hire more employees and pay more benefits to more people, or reduce their hours in the service sector. There is no economic upside for the majority of these type businesses to shorter work weeks.. Hotels need someone at the front desk 24/7 for instance.
    I don't think so....require business to only offer full time jobs as the norm. If the employee WANTS to work a shorter week, it is on them. Penalize companies who use part time work and overtime to avoid more hiring.
    Employers should not be required to offer benefits, but pay enough that the employee can buy their own retirement plans and health care insurance.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I don't think so....require business to only offer full time jobs as the norm. If the employee WANTS to work a shorter week, it is on them. Penalize companies who use part time work and overtime to avoid more hiring.
    Employers should not be required to offer benefits, but pay enough that the employee can buy their own retirement plans and health care insurance.
    If the overtime rate was high enough (like changing it from "time and a half" to doubletime or tripletime), then the higher pay rate would be the penality, no need to penalize more.

    I do agree about the benefits though. It amazes me how some people complain that they don't want the government to be their nanny, but they don't mind their employer being their nanny. Personally, I like being able to make my own financial decisions, to decide what insurance plan I am going to purchase, and how I am going to save/invest for my retirement. Just pay me the cost of the benefits, and I will pick my own perks.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    If the overtime rate was high enough (like changing it from "time and a half" to doubletime or tripletime), then the higher pay rate would be the penality, no need to penalize more.

    I do agree about the benefits though. It amazes me how some people complain that they don't want the government to be their nanny, but they don't mind their employer being their nanny. Personally, I like being able to make my own financial decisions, to decide what insurance plan I am going to purchase, and how I am going to save/invest for my retirement. Just pay me the cost of the benefits, and I will pick my own perks.
    Single-payer sounds simpler.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Single-payer sounds simpler.
    Simpler yes, but for a variety of reasons, I'm not a huge advocate of socialized healthcare.

    I do support socialized health insurance though (big difference).
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Exactly, they will have to hire more workers, essentially spreading out the work that is available between more workers, so that there are enough jobs that every family can have an earned income. That perfectly illustrates my plan.
    A business that is open 24 hours will not have any additional revenue but have additional costs. Your plan is economically destructive to the service sector which proves my point.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I don't think so....require business to only offer full time jobs as the norm. If the employee WANTS to work a shorter week, it is on them. Penalize companies who use part time work and overtime to avoid more hiring.
    Employers should not be required to offer benefits, but pay enough that the employee can buy their own retirement plans and health care insurance.
    No sick days, no vacation days, no paid holidays will really seem attractive to the masses, no jobs for students, no opportunity to work to meet unexpected bills will be wonderful in Neverneverland.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    No sick days, no vacation days, no paid holidays will really seem attractive to the masses, no jobs for students, no opportunity to work to meet unexpected bills will be wonderful in Neverneverland.
    and where did I say that?
    going to the 40 hour work week in the olden days did a lot to create jobs for those who now have leisure time....
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    It'll backfire. When too many people are replaced with too many machines, those lower operating costs will mean nothing as people won't have jobs to earn money to buy whatever they're selling.
    But I thought the progressive argument was that welfare produced twice as much economic activity that it costs to put out, or some such BS...?
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    and where did I say that?
    going to the 40 hour work week in the olden days did a lot to create jobs for those who now have leisure time....
    "Employers should not be required to offer benefits..."

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I think in order for a paradigm shift to happen, we will have to hit rock bottom. Until then, the trend will stay the same.
    Ideologues will blame it on something else and find a way to dig us deeper even then

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