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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    socialism!!! Communism!!!! Fascism!!!!!!
    Fascism maybe, but certainly not true communism or true socialism. I don't advocate for the government to own everything, or for the government to own the means of production. Only to create a set of rules that will work for everyone's benefit.

    I expect that we will have to have more of a mixed economy in the future.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    But it doesn't have to be like that. If we are producing more per work hour, the employer can afford to pay more per work hour.

    All we have to do to make that happen is for government to create mechanisms which disincentivizes both the employer and the worker from desiring to work long hours. At that point, employers will have to compete just as hard for employees as they do today, and incomes will thus be just as high as they are today.

    I'd much prefer some sort of natural private sector disincentive to exist for long working hours, so that the necessity of creating such disincentives doesn't have to be created by government, but no such private sector mechanism exists.
    Your analysis is always too manufacturing oriented. Shorter work weeks would damage the service sector of our economy.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Your analysis is always too manufacturing oriented. Shorter work weeks would damage the service sector of our economy.
    Why? (ten characters)
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We're in the same ballpark here, I reckon. I am generally reluctant to increase the size, scope or powers of government if it can be avoided, but something is going to have to be done, and "investing in education" is an established gov't function (even if debatable in some venues).

    If the choice is going to be between having half the workforce be unemployable, or putting some tax dollars into making education/ job-retraining more accessible to the down-and-out, I'm going with the latter.
    yep, i agree.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What response do you want? Do you want the government step in and enforce a lack of automation so that more bank tellers are required to run a bank?

    No focus on retraining? Democrats put forward bills like that all the time. Seven bills aimed at retraining veterans specifically, all shot down by the GOP. Because SPENDING IS BAD


    Huh.....

    Where did I even hint at such foolishness?

    I strongly suggest you ratchet it down a tad
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    I think in order for a paradigm shift to happen, we will have to hit rock bottom. Until then, the trend will stay the same.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I think in order for a paradigm shift to happen, we will have to hit rock bottom. Until then, the trend will stay the same.
    Great minds think alike.

    I hope that we are both wrong about this.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Why? (ten characters)
    Because a shorter work week would require businesses to pay more overtime, hire more employees and pay more benefits to more people, or reduce their hours in the service sector. There is no economic upside for the majority of these type businesses to shorter work weeks.. Hotels need someone at the front desk 24/7 for instance.

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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Because a shorter work week would require businesses to pay more overtime, hire more employees and pay more benefits to more people, or reduce their hours in the service sector....
    Exactly, they will have to hire more workers, essentially spreading out the work that is available between more workers, so that there are enough jobs that every family can have an earned income. That perfectly illustrates my plan.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Here's a question for everybody.

    Do you believe that the captains of industry, the owners, the 1%, whatever you want to call them, in this country, would let us slide into a near permanent depression if it meant adding a little more to their bottom line?
    I think we are being conditioned to accept a second world lifestyle now.

    And if they can get the government to protect them, and they continue to harvest profits at an acceptable rate, they don't really give a **** about the rest of us.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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