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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wow, that's harsh Scott...What makes you think people on the right don't think? I mean, are we really to the point that if someone doesn't automatically agree with us, that we have licence to just chalk them off to stupid?
    It does sound harsh, but it was mostly in jest.

    But in reality, those on both extremes tend to be ideologs, who accept the extremist ideology with no thought ever given towards moderation. also, even Rush calls his followers "dittoheads", because all they do is repeat whatever he says.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Thanks Obama

    With the cause "artificial intelligence" you can hardly lay the blame at Obama's feet. First, he has never exhibited intelligence per ce, artificial or real.

    He can, though, be condemned for not acting and once again we see the populist forcing hot button issues instead of providing leadership. Back in the so-called "recovery" he was taped commenting that the recovery wasn't coming that quickly and the problem was that more people used ATM machines instead of going to the bank.....which shows he at least had an inkling of the problem six years ago.

    But his response? Nothing, a direct fight with congress over everything, some posturing about amnesty, but not one word about shifting focus and adding opportunities for re-training. Kind of odd, considering Canad was into that ten years ago.

    That's the difference between populist/socialism and true liberalism....
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    you got it.... Obama is solely responsible for every economic megatrend.... from innovations of technology to outsourcing to foreign countries. Its nice to have a simple blame point for all of life's ills....
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    With the cause "artificial intelligence" you can hardly lay the blame at Obama's feet. First, he has never exhibited intelligence per ce, artificial or real.

    He can, though, be condemned for not acting and once again we see the populist forcing hot button issues instead of providing leadership. Back in the so-called "recovery" he was taped commenting that the recovery wasn't coming that quickly and the problem was that more people used ATM machines instead of going to the bank.....which shows he at least had an inkling of the problem six years ago.

    But his response? Nothing, a direct fight with congress over everything, some posturing about amnesty, but not one word about shifting focus and adding opportunities for re-training. Kind of odd, considering Canad was into that ten years ago.

    That's the difference between populist/socialism and true liberalism....
    agreed that one of my biggest disappointments with Obama was his failure to resurrect the new deal approach by establishing a job corps. no one who wanted a job should have been unable to find one. not a good job, because we want the employees to be looking for something better, preferably in the private sector. but Obama squandered that opportunity just as he did the ability to extend single-payer to all by eliminating an age requirement for medicare
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    agreed that one of my biggest disappointments with Obama was his failure to resurrect the new deal approach by establishing a job corps. no one who wanted a job should have been unable to find one. not a good job, because we want the employees to be looking for something better, preferably in the private sector. but Obama squandered that opportunity just as he did the ability to extend single-payer to all by eliminating an age requirement for medicare
    What you have identified is the difference between true Liberalism and what Obama practices...

    A job corps approach was exactly what was needed, not make work as what happened. Here, where the effects were much less, the government expanded training focusing "mature workers" retraining them, usually adding technology to their life skills. It is a longer term approach but in the end has solid foundation, the people you helped are not looking for work again in a year.

    Obama made a show of his programs, which spent more on the salaries of community organizers etc., and long, ridiculously long unemployment benefits which paid people not to work. After 99 weeks, how many of them are even qualified to work in this rapidly changing job market.

    No, by retraining to an established demand, you recoup the investment in income taxes in short order. Obama's $ may as well have been burned.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In 2025, yeah, probably most of that. But shelves and trucks? It's not too long before machines can do that on their own.
    True... but somebody has to run the machines and those jobs are around now meaning that job is not a new job, just a reduction of some jobs.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    there will always be a need for human labor, but just not enough to supply everyone with a 40 hour per week job.

    All of those jobs that you just mentioned, except for possibly doctors, are being replaced with technology.
    But people still run the machines... that job exists today. Customer service will not be replaced by machines... waiters, pool cleaners, gardeners, they guy that drives the truck that paints the lines in the road, elevator doormen, um wait...
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But people still run the machines... that job exists today. Customer service will not be replaced by machines... waiters, pool cleaners, gardeners, they guy that drives the truck that paints the lines in the road, elevator doormen, um wait...
    Yup, but one guy operating a machine can often do the work that used to take ten people or more.

    A few months ago I ran into one of my competitors, he leaned over to me and whispered: "is this industry going to be around long enough to carry us to retirement?" All I knew to say was "I doubt it". Technology is replacing my industry a little each day. 25 years ago when I first started my business, I had 30+ competitors in my county, today there's less than a dozen.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    But people still run the machines... that job exists today. Customer service will not be replaced by machines... waiters, pool cleaners, gardeners, they guy that drives the truck that paints the lines in the road, elevator doormen, um wait...
    The entire purpose of investing in technology is to reduce operating costs. Employees are the most expensive aspect of a business. Replacing them with a machine reduces operating costs. There would be no point in investing in technology if the end goal was NOT fewer employees.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The entire purpose of investing in technology is to reduce operating costs. Employees are the most expensive aspect of a business. Replacing them with a machine reduces operating costs. There would be no point in investing in technology if the end goal was NOT fewer employees.
    It'll backfire. When too many people are replaced with too many machines, those lower operating costs will mean nothing as people won't have jobs to earn money to buy whatever they're selling.
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