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    As long as she has her millions, that's good enough for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And you are able to make a living wage doing this?

    I've read a lot about the way that most professional musicians cobble together a living. It doesn't sound that appealing to me...

    A $75 gig on Saturday night, $6.53 in royalty fees from recorded music, $90 for giving three kids lessons twice a week, and a job waiting tables for $2.25 plus tips.
    I have a regular job. The royalties aren't that much. The publishing company takes a chunk. The point with that is there's people out there that are enjoying my music. I made a pretty good living in my mid 20s to early 30s's playing music live. The other guys in the band didn't want to tour regularly, kids and family stuff. I slowed down got a regular job. Play out semi regularly and do three festivals a year. That's where the good money is. With those festivals I can afford to call in more from my regular job. First and foremost you have to have drive and determination and vision. If musician has those things, they'll have some level of success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I have a regular job. The royalties aren't that much. The publishing company takes a chunk. The point with that is there's people out there that are enjoying my music. I made a pretty good living in my mid 20s to early 30s's playing music live. The other guys in the band didn't want to tour regularly, kids and family stuff. I slowed down got a regular job. Play out semi regularly and do three festivals a year. That's where the good money is. With those festivals I can afford to call in more from my regular job. First and foremost you have to have drive and determination and vision. If musician has those things, they'll have some level of success.
    Someone once said that the ideal job is the one that the employee would do for free if he couldn't get paid for doing it. Sounds to me that you almost have the perfect job for you. I wish you success with it.

    My kid is somewhat of a musician, but he became very discouraged about his chances of ever being able to make a good living as a performer, so he has decided to pursue a career other than music performance, but still in the music field.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Can you walk me through a scenario in which our economy would just naturally evolve to create enough living wage jobs so that every family could have at least one? The assumption is that technology is rapidly replacing the need for human labor. go for it. I'd love to have some hope for a viable solution that didn't involve government. I just haven't seen one yet, and I can't develop one in my own mind (of course I'm not the brightest person around either).
    Well since you injected "living wage" nonsense into the conversation, probably not to your satisfaction. We are at peak oil, peak phosphorous, have passed the economic advantage of women in the workplace adding extra labor capacity, are draining our aquifers faster than they replenish themselves, and are facing water shortages. The economies of scale are being lost and the baby boomers are dying off and the per couple child rate is declining below 2 long term The demand for food is ever present. As production shifts away from ADM having the advantages, they will shift back toward local food production. We will need more medical staff to take care of the aging demographic bulge. As wealth trickles out to the masses in China, the US will be able to increase exports to pick up the slack. People will have to train and retrain multiple times in their working years which will create educational jobs geared at supplying them that training. Our infrastructure is falling apart and needs replacing--not just roads and bridges, but our housing stock, sewer lines, gas lines and such. As foreigners gain wealth, they will travel to the US which will create tourism related jobs. As I indicated before, the problem won't be having a job for everyone, but to have someone for every type of job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Then you have misunderstood my position. The solution won't be political. Politics will delay the "solution" for lack of a better word. Businesses adapt. People will have to adapt as well. Politics largely is the false promise that people won't have to adapt if they only vote this way or that way.
    People adapt without ever really noticing they are doing so. We have adapted, for example, to the Internet age and it would be much more difficult to adapt back to the way we were. The future is always easier than we expected because it comes just one day at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Someone once said that the ideal job is the one that the employee would do for free if he couldn't get paid for doing it. Sounds to me that you almost have the perfect job for you. I wish you success with it.

    My kid is somewhat of a musician, but he became very discouraged about his chances of ever being able to make a good living as a performer, so he has decided to pursue a career other than music performance, but still in the music field.
    Advice I have for your son is that it should be about having fun AND drive. If success comes so be it. And if the type of success that he's envisioning does not come, do not let that discourage him from playing music. At the end of the day it's about having something to say.

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    They were predicting this same stuff 20 years ago. Robots were going to put everyone out of business. It might be different now but I don't think so.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This prediction is a frightening one for those of us at the age where we are not old enough to not work, but too old to retrain and start over.
    That is ridiculous. People will still stock shelves, drive trucks, pave roads, be doctors and lawyers, do customer service, etc.
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    Re: 50% of occupations today will no longer exist in 2025: Report

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This prediction is a frightening one for those of us at the age where we are not old enough to not work, but too old to retrain and start over.
    This prediction seems a little aggressive. 2025 is 11 years from now. I highly doubt that things are going to advance so far in 11 years that 50% of the currently existing jobs will be obsolete. Maybe the technology will exist to make them obsolete, but that's not the same as the technology actually being rolled out and those jobs being gone.

    I'm not too worried, since I doubt they'll be able to replace engineers in 11 years.
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