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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Read the rest of the post.

    War is peace was supposed to have been a warning, not foreign policy.
    And sometimes it works. Like I get you don't like it. I get you don't think it should be done because it's rude and mean and whatnot. But don't conflate that with efficacy.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    And sometimes it works. Like I get you don't like it. I get you don't think it should be done because it's rude and mean and whatnot. But don't conflate that with efficacy.
    and your example of "efficacy" is the Spanish American war? Are there any more recent examples?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and your example of "efficacy" is the Spanish American war? Are there any more recent examples?
    Korea?

    Seriously, this seems to be some moral hang up for you: You don't like it so you're arguing it can never work. I guess if you except all the times it has, you'll come up with 100% failures.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Korea?

    Seriously, this seems to be some moral hang up for you: You don't like it so you're arguing it can never work. I guess if you except all the times it has, you'll come up with 100% failures.
    All the times it has? You give us one example. The Korean war never ended, actually. Half of the country is in an Orwellian dystopia. Half is a functioning democracy, so I suppose that one example shows that military intervention worked half way.

    Anyway, I didn't argue that it can never work. I actually gave some parameters by which it could work.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    All the times it has? You give us one example. The Korean war never ended, actually. Half of the country is in an Orwellian dystopia. Half is a functioning democracy, so I suppose that one example shows that military intervention worked half way.

    Anyway, I didn't argue that it can never work. I actually gave some parameters by which it could work.
    All the times, yes. Remember all those countries I listed, that you tried to pare down, saying they didn't count for whatever reason? Anyway, the only person taking about solely military force was you.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    All the times, yes. Remember all those countries I listed, that you tried to pare down, saying they didn't count for whatever reason? Anyway, the only person taking about solely military force was you.
    and the only one arguing against the "it never works" idea was you.

    So, back to when does military intervention actually work? Pick one. You've mentioned Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Korea, Japan, and Germany. Did I miss one?
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and the only one arguing against the "it never works" idea was you.
    So we agree it can work? Great, then the rest of this doesn't matter:

    So, back to when does military intervention actually work? Pick one. You've mentioned Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Korea, Japan, and Germany. Did I miss one?
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