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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I truly do not understand this. If he was right to leave knowing it was going to blow up, why allow it to happen?
    And if this response is "right", even if its just symbolic and not substantive, what could be wrong?

    If we are resolute-we should stay until the job is done. If we are to go to war, we should actually FIGHT that war, otherwise whats the point?
    Obama's policy is to avoid doing more than has to be done. To intervene in another country's affairs, wait as long as possible, to let them work it out. When it is clear to many people in the country, that US interference would be helpful, then go in with the least risk to US personnel.

    Why do wars have to be Finished? They just need to simmer down.



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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Iraq invasion will go down in history as the single biggest, US fustercluck of ALL time.
    It was the second time the US had won a war militarily and lost it politically. The anti American propaganda is an incredibly powerful force.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Obama's policy is to avoid doing more than has to be done. To intervene in another country's affairs, wait as long as possible, to let them work it out. When it is clear to many people in the country, that US interference would be helpful, then go in with the least risk to US personnel.

    Why do wars have to be Finished? They just need to simmer down.



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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I truly do not understand this. If he was right to leave knowing it was going to blow up, why allow it to happen?
    And if this response is "right", even if its just symbolic and not substantive, what could be wrong?

    If we are resolute-we should stay until the job is done. If we are to go to war, we should actually FIGHT that war, otherwise whats the point?
    Iraq blowing up was a foregone conclusion as soon as we invaded. That it happened under a Democratic POTUS was just serendipity for the Republicans.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Iraq blowing up was a foregone conclusion as soon as we invaded. That it happened under a Democratic POTUS was just serendipity for the Republicans.
    Republicans aren't happy, and you and I both know they are going to have to clean up the mess. For now, the left is content with badly trying to ignore it.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Republicans aren't happy, and you and I both know they are going to have to clean up the mess. For now, the left is content with badly trying to ignore it.
    Oh, I think the Republicans are ecstatic that a Republican doesn't inhabit the White House to take the blame for Iraq. Not that they're happy that the POTUS has a D after his name currently, but certainly that they can point fingers at the other party. That's what our elected representatives do best, you know, point fingers at the other side.

    Had Romney won, he'd be fending off Democrats saying that he's to blame for the mess. Personally, I don't blame either Bush or Obama, but the gentlemen from the PNAC, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Wolfowitz, the real architects of the the invasion of Iraq, but that's just me. Those four are now in obscurity, leaving the Democrats to blame Bush and the Republicans to blame Obama.

    The invasion of Iraq was a cluster(bleep!) from the start.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, I think the Republicans are ecstatic that a Republican doesn't inhabit the White House to take the blame for Iraq. Not that they're happy that the POTUS has a D after his name currently, but certainly that they can point fingers at the other party. That's what our elected representatives do best, you know, point fingers at the other side.

    Had Romney won, he'd be fending off Democrats saying that he's to blame for the mess. Personally, I don't blame either Bush or Obama, but the gentlemen from the PNAC, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Wolfowitz, the real architects of the the invasion of Iraq, but that's just me. Those four are now in obscurity, leaving the Democrats to blame Bush and the Republicans to blame Obama.

    The invasion of Iraq was a cluster(bleep!) from the start.
    I dont think Romney would have left Iraq to the wolves like Obama did. We will never know though.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    We should have learned our lesson from Viet Nam. We engaged in mission creep there as well. Then we managed the mission from Washington. No good came from it.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont think Romney would have left Iraq to the wolves like Obama did. We will never know though.
    It's hard to say what Romney would have done. Unfortunately, the election was what it was. I think a lot of things would have gone better, but Iraq would still have been in chaos.

    Just my opinion, of course. There is no way to know what if.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was the second time the US had won a war militarily and lost it politically. The anti American propaganda is an incredibly powerful force.
    We haven't used enough force to decisively win anything since the Gulf War. As long as the Iraq situation keeps morphing into new enemies, we'll have to call it an open ended mess.
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