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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    But it is, of course, rather like cutting your nose off in spite, to use a technology that is inefficient, because someone else told you about it . You would almost have to be an imbecile.
    They're uneducated about our system and it's effectiveness, and brainwashed to be emotionally biased. I chose to smoke cigarettes for 25 years knowing the health issues related, I was stupidly inexperienced. The difference between knowing and believing something is time and experience.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    They're uneducated about our system and it's effectiveness, and brainwashed to be emotionally biased. I chose to smoke cigarettes for 25 years knowing the health issues related, I was stupidly inexperienced. The difference between knowing and believing something is time and experience.

    I, personally, don't think the world is better off as one humongous blend of culture with no diversity, regardless if it creates differences in materialistic equality.
    That about says it . I might add one observation.
    The main factor is less the material betterment than the greater security the individual has versus government.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im talking about the actual appointed head of govt. The one who decides when and where to send troops.
    We don't appoint heads of state in the USA.

    We elect our leaders. Right now, the elected leader is one Barack Obama.
    Before him, back when the invasion of Iraq was taking place, the elected leader was one George Bush.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That about says it . I might add one observation.
    The main factor is less the material betterment than the greater security the individual has versus government.
    But you know the saying by Ben Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither."
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We don't appoint heads of state in the USA.

    We elect our leaders. Right now, the elected leader is one Barack Obama.
    Before him, back when the invasion of Iraq was taking place, the elected leader was one George Bush.
    Ok, now we are getting somewhere. Who presided over the withdrawal of troops in Iraq, and the subsequent rise of ISIS in Iraq?

    Thats who's at the wheel. Own it.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Ok, now we are getting somewhere. Who presided over the withdrawal of troops in Iraq, and the subsequent rise of ISIS in Iraq?

    Thats who's at the wheel. Own it.
    Why do the Iraqi people hate the US?

    The Iraqi people hated the US before the Allies left, and many Iraqis still hate the US.

    It is stupid to help people who hate you, any more than necessary.

    It would have been stupid to stay in Iraq, because that would have built up more hatred.

    Now the Iraqis are in trouble, and they are welcoming back the US, in a limited manner.



    BO was right to leave Iraq, and BO is right to come back in a limited manner.


    "Every cornerstone of what one would consider to be basic rights in a free society, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, right to fair judicial process, right to be secure from unlawful searches and seizures in one's home, have been abolished in Iraq. The occupation makes the regime of Saddam Hussein look like post-revolution America.

    This is why the Iraqis hate us.

    I guess the Iraqi children should feel lucky in that they got their retaliation in first by throwing rocks, many are simply arrested, hooded and taken to the torture camp for refusing to show ID at checkpoints. It's good to see that the authorities are not hypocrites and that the same kind of law enforcement techniques are practiced here at home, as Mostafa Tabatabainejad can attest to, the student was tortured for refusing to show his ID to UCLA police in a campus library.


    This Is Why The Iraqis Hate Us

    The Iraqi people speak out about the US war against their nation | TIME.com


    "90 Percent Of Iraqis Hate Us And The Other 10 Percent Have Left Iraq ."

    90 Percent Of Iraqis Hate Us And The Other 10 Percent Have Left Iraq

    "Iraqis, overall, feel that their country is “worse off” because of the U.S.-led war there — perhaps, for example, because Baghdad recently ranked as the worst place on the planet to live — with strong divergences across ethnic groups. Likewise, in the U.S., respondents were split between political affiliations about whether they thought Iraq was better or worse off. This chart breaks down the various responses to the survey:"

    http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...iraq-war-iran/






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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The one thing I have a problem with is, all using the excuse that Maliki was weak. Yet here was a weak leader and a weak government, with weak Armed Forces.....and yet we couldn't get them to agree to our terms for a SOFA. Here BO and his team couldn't find a way to use all their Elite liberal mannerisms and get this weak Leader and Weak government to come to terms with a deal.

    Yet it was BO's own people who said that BO and Team didn't like Maliki......that he didn't care for Maliki like he didn't care for Karzi.

    Now you know, there was a model that BO could have followed. I believe the Sicilians perfected it with those they don't like. Note: it was called Strictly Business.




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    Maliki should never have been a factor in America's, or the world's, long term global interests. Guys like him come and go and they should not determine whether US or Coalition troops remain or stay, any more than Coalition troops should decide on Iraqi domestic policies, given that they are legal and follow human human rights.

    After the trillions spent, the thousands of lives lost and destroyed, US troops should leave because of a punk like Maliki? It just doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    BO was right to leave Iraq, and BO is right to come back in a limited manner.
    I truly do not understand this. If he was right to leave knowing it was going to blow up, why allow it to happen?
    And if this response is "right", even if its just symbolic and not substantive, what could be wrong?

    If we are resolute-we should stay until the job is done. If we are to go to war, we should actually FIGHT that war, otherwise whats the point?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Who is the head of the US govt?
    On the other hand we should give credit to the leftists for finally admitting it was George Bush who ended the war in Iraq, not Nouri al-Maliki or Barrack Obama. Obama should do the honest thing also and admit he was just following orders.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    On the other hand we should give credit to the leftists for finally admitting it was George Bush who ended the war in Iraq, not Nouri al-Maliki or Barrack Obama. Obama should do the honest thing also and admit he was just following orders.
    That makes perfect sense. These guys never think their arguments through.

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