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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Iraq invasion will go down in history as the single biggest, US fustercluck of ALL time.
    I'd put it in second place, right after the invasion of Vietnam.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The one thing I have a problem with is, all using the excuse that Maliki was weak. Yet here was a weak leader and a weak government, with weak Armed Forces.....and yet we couldn't get them to agree to our terms for a SOFA. Here BO and his team couldn't find a way to use all their Elite liberal mannerisms and get this weak Leader and Weak government to come to terms with a deal.

    Yet it was BO's own people who said that BO and Team didn't like Maliki......that he didn't care for Maliki like he didn't care for Karzi.

    Now you know, there was a model that BO could have followed. I believe the Sicilians perfected it with those they don't like. Note: it was called Strictly Business.




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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    We, the people. We're the head of the government.
    Im talking about the actual appointed head of govt. The one who decides when and where to send troops.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and it was up to the US to fix things, why again?
    So who should have? The problem with you attempting to diffuse responsibility is that it leads to nobody being responsible.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'd put it in second place, right after the invasion of Vietnam.
    It's going to cost the world more eventually in the continuation of the terrorist philosophy and justification. 'Spreading democracy' is authoritarian speak for 'conquering the world'.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Iran has a very long land boarder that is already used to undermine the present sanctions. I assume that a blockade would require cutting off that route also.
    Usually much less oil can be sent through pipelines than can be sent by sea. There must be good reasons why Iran exports so much oil through the Gulf, and I suspect it would pinch its economy very hard for that route to be cut off.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Usually much less oil can be sent through pipelines than can be sent by sea. There must be good reasons why Iran exports so much oil through the Gulf, and I suspect it would pinch its economy very hard for that route to be cut off.
    I must see if I can find a study or two.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's going to cost the world more eventually in the continuation of the terrorist philosophy and justification. 'Spreading democracy' is authoritarian speak for 'conquering the world'.
    Of course, democracy is a more efficient social technology than the competitors. But like any technology you have to be able to handle it.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Of course, democracy is a more efficient social technology than the competitors. But like any technology you have to be able to handle it.
    Handle and accept it. People don't like to be told how to think and live, it kind of makes them 'controlled' and 'enslaved'.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Handle and accept it. People don't like to be told how to think and live, it kind of makes them 'controlled' and 'enslaved'.
    But it is, of course, rather like cutting your nose off in spite, to use a technology that is inefficient, because someone else told you about it . You would almost have to be an imbecile.

    The main problem usually is that small local groups stand to lose their privileges.

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