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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that is how things are done in Washington but we are not in Washington and should be able to recognize what really went on, if we want to participate in an honest debate.

    The US has something like 87 SOFA's around the world which are always coming up for renewal and renegotiation. The one in Iraq was no different. Obama and his supporters will blame SOFA for the withdrawal or take credit to 'end the war in Iraq'. They are obviously using this both ways, which politicians naturally do, but the electorate should see through this chicanery and certainly not defend it. By allowing this they support the dishonesty in government they are often railing against.
    If the electorate could see through this chicanery,they would have voted the proponents of absurd partisanship out long ago. Instead, they wave their pom poms and forget about what the party they're cheering for has said and done in the past.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm not sure there's a way to stop proliferation. The secrets are out there, and there to be had if the price is right.

    The best thing is to maintain our arsenal as a deterrent and make it clear that we're not going to stand by if they are used. It's also possibly the world's worst kept "secret" that Israel has nuclear weapons, which is another strong deterrent for Iran.
    Well, there is always preemption.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If the electorate could see through this chicanery,they would have voted the proponents of absurd partisanship out long ago. Instead, they wave their pom poms and forget about what the party they're cheering for has said and done in the past.
    It seems to me that the American electorate were once more sophisticated than they are now and disapproved of lies from any quarter.

    But perhaps that is wishful thinking.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    You are not making your case with these silly links, TheDemSocialist. Try your own words.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The point was.....the one link pointed out other Sunni Arabs had or were making attacks. Which the Baathist were against the US and Iraqi government.
    Ok.... Point being?

    Assad was fighting the Syrian Rebels and we do have the threads up on what was taking place. He rarely was going after AQ of Iraq.
    He was fighting ISIS which was in his state...


    Yes Really.....as the Narrative of going back to Bush. Doesn't relate.
    Seriously? You are going to claim that choices, decisions, and policies have not caused a blowback?

    Nor does the excuses over BO's Foreign Policy.
    Where did I said it excused it? I simply said trying to pin this all on one person is very simplistic.

    Are you trying to State that both of BO's S.O.Ds got it wrong with what they told the Entire country?
    Did I anywhere emply that?

    Why is it no Foreign Policy experts carry the narrative......like you do.
    What? That this is more than just one mans fault? I think many experts carry that narrative.

    Looking for any excuse, any technicality, and trying to Blame Bush for AQ being back in Iraq......after being driven out or their so called retreating.
    As I stated Bush does carry partially the blame. All of it? No. A lot of it, yes.

    So Continuous?????? Not when.....one offers the poor in that region a way out poverty, as one of those means and ways.
    By constantly occupying their country? Sounds like Oceania is going to be in constant war with Eurasia again..


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems to me that the American electorate were once more sophisticated than they are now and disapproved of lies from any quarter.

    But perhaps that is wishful thinking.
    Yes, I believe it is.
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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    And you would be incorrect. To save bandwidth and me having to type away on my phone I suggest you read this instead. Very informative and in line with what the we are being briefed regarding the motivation and idealism surrounding these guys.
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    Where does it say that I was wrong?


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You are not making your case with these silly links, TheDemSocialist. Try your own words.
    Do you want me to pull some quotes. Or is reading too hard for ya? Or do you simply refuse anything that goes against your simple narrative?


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you want me to pull some quotes. Or is reading too hard for ya? Or do you simply refuse anything that goes against your simple narrative?
    I suggested you use your own words. If that's a problem for you, don't bother.

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