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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama never mentioned any problems or foreseeable problems when he announced the departure of US Troops. In fact he appeared to take credit for all the success. Obama Flashback: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'
    Does this change are hold anything invalid in what I said earlier?


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya 88. Was Maliki voted in twice by the people of Iraq?
    Why yes I believe he was.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Cool beans. Do you have a point your trying to make?
    I explained the point earlier after you supplied the link. This move is done only to appear something is being done. What 'advice' do you believe these 'advisers' will be giving? Do you really believe anyone will pay attention to them?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok.. Again this goes way beyond blaming one person...


    Again. Not you cannot blame this simply on one person. Even if we left troops in Iraq that does not mean ISIS would be formed...


    Sure they dont. Thats why they are on their hands and knees for us....


    Okay, you can also assign blame to AQ.....have to blame them as without them there is no enemy, and would be no conflict with ISIS. So lets not forget them.

    Although, AQ was chased out of Iraq. Once knowing we were drawing down and leaving they returned. All returning back after BO said he was pulling out. They then became ISIL. Dealing with them was an Iraqi Problem. One that they couldn't deal with and BO and his team was then given notice. But then didn't aggressively pursue and Outright Enemy who would then destabilize 2 countries, expand and declare war on Christians, Rome, and then us.

    Yeah they pray like that.....but that doesn't stop al Sadr leading protests. Nor does it stop al Sistani from influencing that Iraqi PM.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Does this change are hold anything invalid in what I said earlier?
    Which earlier point are you referring to? Baathification?

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Okay, you can also assign blame to AQ.....have to blame them as without them there is no enemy, and would be no conflict with ISIS. So lets not forget them.
    Thats obvious.

    Although, AQ was chased out of Iraq.
    No they were not.

    Once knowing we were drawing down and leaving they returned.
    They never left.

    All returning back after BO said he was pulling out.
    Again, they never left.

    They then became ISIL.
    An offshoot did.

    Dealing with them was an Iraqi Problem.
    It should be.

    One that they couldn't deal with and BO and his team was then given notice.
    They did.

    But then didn't aggressively pursue and Outright Enemy who would then destabilize 2 countries, expand and declare war on Christians, Rome, and then us.
    That did happen.

    Yeah they pray like that.....but that doesn't stop al Sadr leading protests. Nor does it stop al Sistani from influencing that Iraqi PM.
    Ok.


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama never mentioned any problems or foreseeable problems when he announced the departure of US Troops. In fact he appeared to take credit for all the success. Obama Flashback: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'



    I am very optimistic about -- about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government," said Biden.

    "I spent -- I've been there 17 times now. I go about every two months -- three months. I know every one of the major players in all of the segments of that society. It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences.".....snip~


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which earlier point are you referring to? Baathification?
    The initial invasion destabilizing the region, debaathification of the public sector, establishing a government that ignored the Sunni population, failure of the Iraqi military to deal with its own problems.


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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The initial invasion destabilizing the region, debaathification of the public sector, establishing a government that ignored the Sunni population, failure of the Iraqi military to deal with its own problems.
    The region was never 'stable'. I have no idea why you would say that if you were at all familiar with the Middle East at the time.

    It doesn't matter about Maliki or the government the Iraqi people chose. The troops had to remain there to sustain stability in the region, just as they have done elsewhere in the world. It also doesn't matter what local governments are elected or what their domestic policies might be. This is always beside the point wherever US troops are stationed.

    Troops are there to maintain peace (this was especially necessary in a new democracy with a history of terrorism) and when Obama withdrew these troops, despite it being a 'stable' Iraq, we get what we see now. Claiming there was stability in the ME when Saddam was in power is ignoring everything we know about that period.

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    Re: CNN: 1,500 more troops to Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We never were-how much of their oil do we get after the lefts supposed "war for oil"?

    Now, the disadvantage of BO leaving Iraq is that it has allowed ISIS to flourish and its also set a precedence to terrorists around the world-keep a low profile till we leave, and then the coast is clear.

    Until the US comes back again.
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